I have been on the web searching for additional information on the family lines, copying down and correcting my “paper” trails so I can have a better understanding of the families and how they went their ways along with trying to find new information to share with each of you.
The Wisconsin Crye’s have a rich history of lands, farming, building, pioneering and settling new areas. One contact told me of a book, hidden in an attic about the Crye’s coming to America. The house burned (as is usual for something we really want to see) and so far, nothing else has surfaced on this lead. Yet, if someone reading this newsletter can give me some additional information on where to look, who to contact regarding this, please let me know. I am truly interested in connecting all of us together.
Well, June 12 is almost here, just five or six weeks away. All plans have been made for the reunion with some help from my Blount Co. TN cousins. The time is from 11:00 a.m. until 4:00 p.m. at the Williamson Methodist Church. Here is where most of the Blount County Crye’s, or at least the earliest ones have been buried. The fellowship hall and church are providing us with kitchen facilities and seats. Not knowing how many will attend however, bring a lawn chair for comfort sake and we can sit under the trees and get acquainted. Bring something to eat, sandwiches, chicken, or snacks. We will share like a family homecoming. Drinks and paper products will be provided.
Enclosed with this mailing is a letter of response. It would be an invaluable asset to me if I knew how many to plan for. I will try to have enough ice and such to make our time comfortable, but I will need to know how many you will be bringing with you. Please mail the enclosed letter no later than June 1, 1999 so I will be able to provide adequately. Thank you so much for your help and I look forward to meeting you there. Connecting the dots.....Anita
DEATH NOTICES IN THE
Blount/Knox Co. TN papers
March 22, 1988
Crye, Walter Clarence age 68 - of route 11, Greenback, passed away Monday at Blount Memorial Hospital. Retired from ALCOA with 43 years of service. Member of VFW. Preceded in death by parents, Mr. And Mrs. John H. Crye, brothers, James and Gene Crye, Survivors: wife, Bonnie Butcher Crye, sons, Manuel Crye, Louisville, Stanley Crye, Greenback, Ted Crye, Maryville; daughters, Mrs. George (Norma) Porter, Maryville, Mrs. Gordon (Alma) Swaney, Maryville, Mrs. Gary (Jenny) Albright, Friendsville, Mrs. Dave (Bedelia) Young, Knoxville, Mrs. Eddie (Sheila) Overton, Maryville; 15 grandchildren; one great grandchild; sisters, Mrs. Lloyd (Anna) Gideon, Maryville, Mrs. Macy (Jonnie) King, Halsboro, N.C. and Mrs. William (Betty) Koontz, Maryville. Funeral service 8 p.m. Wednesday, McCammon Ammons Chapel, Rev. Normal Watson officiating. Internment 10 a.m. Thursday, Salem Baptist Cemetery. The family will receive friends 7-8 p.m. Wednesday at McCammon-Ammons Funeral Home, Maryville.
Crye, Robert Harold - age 49, of 677 Lincoln Rd., Alcoa, passed away Tuesday morning at Blount Memorial Hospital. He was a member of Oakland Baptist Church. Survivors: wife, Mrs. Inez Crisp Crye; daughters, Mrs. Anna Knode, Mrs Debbie Welch, both of Maryville, Miss Angie Crye of Alcoa; one granddaughter; mother, Mrs. Carl Crye of Alcoa; sisters, Mrs. Mary Scott and Mrs. Linda Haynes, both of Ohio; brother, James William Crye of South Carolina; several nieces and nephews. Funeral 8:00 p.m. Wednesday, Miller Funeral Home Chapel, Rev. Johnny Davis officiating. Internment 11:00 a.m. Thursday, William Chapel Cemetery. The family will receive friends from 7-8 p.m. Wednesday at Miller Funeral Home, Maryville
Crye, Mrs. Sally Elizabeth - age 80 of Rt. 4, Maryville, passed away Sunday at Blount Memorial Hospital. Survivors; husband, John Shimmon Crye; sons, Lehmann Crye of Miami, Fl, Joe R. Crye, Richmond, Ind., Maynard T. Crye, Maryville; 7 grandchildren; 8 great grandchildren, sisters, Miss Annis Fields, Mrs. Ada Johnson, Miss Maple Fields, all of Maryville; brothers, Ezra Fields, Kermit, Hutton, J.D. and Dal Fields, all of Maryville. Funeral 3 p.m. Wednesday Union Grove Baptist Church with Rev. Tommy Self officiating. Burial in church cemetery. The body will lie in state 1 hour before services. Family will receive friends 7-9 p.m. Tuesday at the funeral home. McCammon-Ammons, Maryville in charge.
March 25, 1979
Crye, John Selmer - age 75, Route 9, Maryville, died at his home, Friday morning. Survivors wife, Ollie Crye, son, R.L. Crye, Maryville, several nieces and nephews; brother, Walt Alexander Crye, Maryville, sister, Mammie Catherine Crye, Maryville. Funeral services Sunday 3:30 p.m., Miller Funeral Home Chapel. Rev. Bill Riden officiating. Internment in Williamson Chapel Cemetery. Miller’s Maryville in charge.
Crye, Mrs. W.G. (Pearl) - age 81, passed away Tue. evening at Northhaven Health Care Center. Member of Smithwood Baptist Church. Survivors; sons, John Crye, Powell, Bob Crye, Knoxville, Duane Crye, Huntsville, ala, Phil Crye, Corryton; 11 grandchildren; 4 great-grandchildren. Funeral service 8 p.m. Thursday at Mynatt Chapel, Rev. M.K. Cobble officiating. Interment 2 p.m. Friday at Greenwood Cemetery. The family will receive friends 7-8 p.m. Thursday at Mynatts.
Crye, Mrs. Esther Y.- age 73 of Rt 9 Maryville, passed away Saturday at Woods Nursing Home. Survivors: husband, Walter Crye; daughter, Mrs. Martha Quesenberry of Pencacola, Fla; step-children, Lawrence Crye, Joe L. Crye, Charles Crye, all of Maryville; sisters, Mrs. Ella Price, Ill., Mrs King Feezell of Maryville; brother, John Young of Maryville; 3 grandchildren. Funeral 2:30 p.m. Wed at McCammon-Ammons Chapel with Rev. Floyd Watts officiating. Burial in Salem Cemetery. Family will receive friends 7-9 p.m. Tue at the funeral home.
Feb. 28, 1994
Crye, Floyd R. - Floyd R. Crye, of 233 Keeble Road, Vonore, died at 1:25 a.m., Monday, Feb. 28, 1994 in Blount Mem. Hospital. He was 63. Survivors: wife, Etta Sue Presley Crye; Sisters, Lorene Dixon, Gladys Waters, Pauline Douglas, all of Maryville; Brothers, Fred Crye, Robert Crye, both of Maryville; several nieces and nephews. The funeral was Tuesday evening in Kyker Funeral Home, Sweetwater. Interment Wednesday in New Hope Presbyterian Church Cemetery. Monroe Co. Advocate 3/9/94
Crye, John Henry - age 77 and Amanda Tyler Crye age 77, Rt 9 Maryville, passed away Tuesday morning as a result of an automobile accident. Survivors: daughters Mrs. Lloyd (Anna) Gideon, Maryville, Mrs Macy (Johnni) King, Halsboro, NC, Mrs. Bill (Betty) Koontz, Maryville; son, Clarence Crye, Maryville, Ben E. Crye, Knoxville; several grandchildren; several great grandchildren. Mr. Crye has one half brother, Carl Crye, Maryville. Mrs. Amanda Crye has one brother, Calvin Fate Tyler, Midland VA. Funeral arrangements incomplete. McCammon-Ammons Maryville in charge.
Crye, William Carl - age 71 of 470 Summit Road, Alcoa, died Sat morning, Blount Mem. Hospital, Survivors: wife, Frances Crye; daughters, Mrs. Virgil (Mary) Scott, Mrs. James (Linda) Haynes, both of OH; sons, Harold Crye, Alcoa, James Crye, SC; 8 grandchildren; 1 great-grandchild. Graveside services will be 11 a.m. Tues at Williamsons Chapel Cemetery. Family will receive friends 7-8:30 p.m. Mon at Miller Funeral Home, Maryville.
Crye, Ben E. (Gene) - age 51 of 1917 West Gilbert Lane, passed away Monday evening from injuries received in an automobile accident. Employee of South Central Bell Telephone Company for 26 years. Veteran of WWII. Survivors: wife, Mrs. Dorothy Owens Crye; daughters, Mrs. Kenneth (Beverly Dunker, Greenville, TN, Miss Patricia Crye, Knoxville; sons, Lt. John Michael Crye, Coast Guard Academy, New London, Connecticut, Robert Lynn Crye, Knoxville, grandchildren, Bradley and Eric Dunker; brother Clarence Crye; sisters, Mrs. Lloyd (Anna) Gideon, Mrs. William (Betty) Koontz, all of Maryville, Mrs. Macey (Jonnie) King, Hallsboro, NC. Memorial service 6 p.m. Wednesday, Berry Chapel, Rev. Gordon Greenwell and Reavomer Cte officiating. Interment 11 a.m. Thursday Woodlawn Cemetery. In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to Sevier Heights Baptist Church Chapel Fund. Friends will be received following the memorial service Wednesday evening in Berry Funeral Home Chapel.
IN LOVING MEMORY
U.S. Social Security Death Index
|Crye, Rudolph died 1992||Crye, Mary died 1996||Crye, Lillian died 1977||Crye, Hazel died 1992|
|Crye, Ruth died 1992||Crye, Maxine died 1996||Crye, Jesse died 1978||Crye, Karen died 1992|
|Crye, Lahmann died 1993||Crye, Thomas died 1996||Crye, Duane died 1979||Crye, Blanche died 1993|
|Crye, Thomas died 1993||Crye, Warren died 1996||Crye, Jacob died 1979||Crye, Carmel died 1993|
|Crye, Barbara died 1994||Crye, James died 1964||Crye, Evelyn died 1981||Crye, Ima died 1993|
|Crye, Floyd died 1994||Crye, Ebirt died 1969||Crye, Delmer died 1982||Crye, Albert died 1994|
|Crye, Hilda died 1994||Crye, John died 1970||Crye, Goldie died 1983||Crye, Charles died 1996|
|Crye, R. died 1994||Crye, Elzie died 1973||Crye, R. died 1983||Crye, Warren G. died 1996|
|Crye, Arlene died 1995||Crye, Leon died 1973||Crye, Viviaan. died 1984||Crye, Betty died 1997|
|Crye, Roy died 1995||Crye, Marvin died 1973||Crye, Rickey died 1986||Crye, Jimmy Lee died 1998|
|Crye, Aurelia died 1996||Crye, Albert died 1974||Crye, Ellie died 1987|
Deaths found on Internet
John Crye, black male, died 03/02/1970 NewBern, Craven Co. NC age 50, married.
White male CRYE b, Maumee Ohio, died 03/07/66, under 1 hour old.
Conasauga Cemetery, McMinn Co. TN
CRYE, David H. 03/26/1886 09/06/1951
Dessie V. 09/13/1897 10/04/1967
Cedar Springs Cemt, McMinn Co. TN
CRYE, John W. 10/18/1862 11/1909
Mary 02/17/1866 03/21/1911
(NOTES) He died in Athens TN, heart trouble, farmer.
She died of Pellegra & TB, born Anderson Co. TN
CRYE, Carrel, died 1/12/1908, male, age 9, greenback, TN died of typhoid fever.
Cloyds Creek Presbyterian Cemetery, Blount Co. TN
CRYE, William 10/09/1833 01/06/1891
Mary J. 06/20/1848 01/08/1905
CRYE, Hattie Wampley 04/04/1898 10/23/1959
Jackson Co. Ala, Section Meth. Ch Cemt.
CRYE, Ruby 1917--1941
wife of Sherman
CRYE, Inft of Sherman inft
Ruth Scheel Crye, b03/03/1905, d11/27/1989 age 84 died Mecklenburg, NC, b WI.
CRYE, Johnnie, white male d 1968, age 18, Montgomery Co. Ohio, Dayton.
|1860 Taliafere Co. Ga
#279-275 pg 736
Crye, Elizabeth age 76 B GA
Cherokee Co. Ala pg 197 #65-65
Cherokee Co. Ala pg 197 #66
Cherokee Co. Ala pg 197 #72-72
|1900 Navarro Co. TX pg 88-A Sup
dist 9 #300-303 En Dist 103 Sheet 19
Cry, Martha B/E 1/1857 divorced
Edie M. 3/1882 (11 children 10 alive)
Mary J. 10/1889
Henry C. 10/1891
Turner, Charles 7/1894 (son)
Adolphus 7/1897 (son)
|1920 Cherokee Co. Ala pg 69B #200-312
Crye, Robert M. 32
1920 Cherokee Co. Ala pg 163B #55-57
1920 Cherokee Co. Ala pg 182 #47-47
|1920 Cherokee Co. Ala pg 188 #62-64
Crye, J. Scott 39
Clara B. 11
Ruth 4 4/12
Luiri 1 1/12
1920 Cherokee Co. Ala pg 189 #85-88
Crye, James M. mar Lively, Mattie 3/29/1890 De Kalb Co.
Crye, Levi mar Tidmore, Jennie Mae 9/10/1907 Etowah Co.
Crye, Ethel mar Turnor McCrite 5/26/1908 Pulaski Co.
Crye, JoAnn mar Stringer, James Runyon 3/17/1914 Perry Co.
Crye, John E. mar Cothran, Mary 6/16/1881 Vanburen Co.
Crye, John Rufus mar Grant, Mattie Flora 1919 Claiborne Co. LA
Crye, Irene Winfrey mar Wallis, Henry Jefferson 1893 Caddo Co. LA also listed as Marion Ga
Crye, Mazie mar Harris, Edd 1915 Caddo Co. LA
Crye, William S. mar Holcomb, Mary A. 12/11/1879 Forsyth GA
Cry, James mar Hawkins, Mary Ann 9/27/1939 Lumpkin Co. GA
Crye, Perry Ellis mar Martin, Dora A. 5/23/1895 Marion GA
Crye, Frank Leslie mar Fulton, Annie 1912 Marion GA
Crye, Effie mar Holcomb, George 2/15/1895 Marion GA
Crye, James mar Reddock, Frances 10/16/1855 Marion GA
Crye, Lillian mar Guinn, Will 1901 Marion GA
Crye, Jene mar Wall, H.J. (male) 12/15/1889 Marion GA
Crye, John Thomas mar McCorkle, Sarah 1870 GA
Crye, Joseph A. mar Satterfield, Nancy 12/18/1879 Chattooga GA
Crye, Julius mar Gallab, Amy J. 2/24/1853 Erie, NY
Crye, Mary Ann mar Van Boskirk, John Jackson 9/21/1870 Schyuler, MO
Cry, Catherine mar Curghey, John 1727 Jurby Isle of Manitoba
Crye, Winnie mar Witt, Charles 6/11/1873 DeSoto, Miss
Cry, Elizabeth mar Bowman, Caleb 3/15/1832 Barthlomew Co
Crye, Johnathan mar Lytle, Eunice 1860 Grant Co
Cry, Thomas mar Clark Emile 9/30/1869 Dekalb Co.
Crye, Lydia mar Miller, Josiah 10/8/1871 Clay Co.
Crye, John mar Davis, Editha Taylor 6/12/1834 Barthlomew IN
Cry, Joseph mar Mitchell, Amanda 9/21/1856 Grant Co
Crye, Barbara mar Hossafros, George 10/08/1826 Stark Co.
Crye, Matilda Ellen mar Silvers, Jacob S 9/6/1879 Paulding Co.
Crye, William mar Hobart, Rachel 3/3/1831 Geauga Cio.
Crye, Erma Lee mar Riddles, Ranceford Avery 6/20/1929, Caddo
Cry, George H. mar Rhodes, Sarah L. 2/2/1875 Nelson Co.
Crye, J.A. mar Peterson, Sarah R. 1/16/1879 Louden Co TN
Cry, Hawkins mar Fortner, Vina 1/8/1878 Bradley Co. TN
Crye, James mar Melton, Eveline ca 1742 Bradley Co. TN
Crye, James mar Pearce, Mary Lea 7/18/1876 Bradley Co. TN
Cry, James H. mar Holmes, Nancy 10/4/1877 Bradley Co. TN
Crye, Mary Jane mar Chambers, S.E. 6/18/1874 Bradley Co. TN
Crye, Richard mar McAlister, Levadia 9/24/1874 Bradley Co. TN
Crye, Susan P. mar Lawson, J.W.P. 3/23/1871 Bradley Co. TN
Crye, Timothy H. mar Lawson, Samantha 4/18/1883 Bradley Co. TN
Cry, W.S. mar Rowland, Sarah C. 8/28/1870 Bradley Co. TN
Crye, Susan C. mar Polston, James E. 6/26/1860 Dyer Co. TN
Crye, Clemantine mar Butler, Harry 8/27/1909 Navaro TX
Crye, Annie Bell mar Martin, John 8/29/1905 Cass Co. TX
Crye, Lillie Snow mar Guinn, Wm Lafayette 8/30/1896 Cass Co. TX
Crye, Annie Bell mar Blakey, Levi 3/10/1911 Cass Co. TX
Several times questions have been sent to the office here asking if I have found any verification of Indian heritage? I continue to hear that the Crye’s are Indian, or part so, but to find proof, well, I haven’t been able to find anything that would lead me in this direction. True, the Crye’s coming from England would be fair, possible blue eyed and light hair, but many are described as dark skinned, dark hair, high cheekbones, etc. So many have written in to say their ancestor and many aunts and uncles definitely had Indian heritage. But where lies the proof? Are looks enough to tell us this? Is this what we are going on or does someone have some proof I have missed? So, let us begin and maybe you can help me.
George Crye of Cleveland, TN sent some information stating that he found the Cryes were of the tribe of Dog and the Southern ancestors come from this line. Upon contacting Indian researchers to verify this, the following was his response.
The dog tribe, probably the Cheyenne that they were referencing. The Cheyenne had a fierce warrior band called "Dog Soldiers" or "Dog Men". Have you seen the movie "Last of the Dog Men"? It sort of references them. The Cherokee have 7 clans, Wolf, Long Hair, Bird, Wild Potato, Deer, Paint and Blue were the names. The Wolf Clan was the largest and most important. There were 17 clans originally, but I don't know what they all were. I can tell you that the Turtle Dove Clan and Raven Clan are now one name, Bird Clan. Each clan had hereditary duties and each it's own status. Children belong to the clan of the mother, and law still forbids marriages among the conservative full bloods.
In 1810, the Cherokee National Council registered a further advance into civilization by formally abolishing the custom of clan revenge, universal amongst the tribes. The enactment bears the signatures of BLACK-FOX- INA-LI, Principal Chief and others, and reads as follows:
In Council Oostinaleh, April 18, 1810
1. Be it known this day, that the various clans or tribes which compose the Cherokee Nation have unanimously passed an act of oblivion for all lives for which they may have been indebted one to another, and have mutually agreed that after this evening the aforesaid act shall become binding upon every clan or tribe thereof.
2. The aforesaid clans or tribes have also agreed that if, in future, any life should be lost without malice intended, the innocent aggressor shall not be counted guilty; and should it so happen that a brother, forgetting his natural affections, should raise his hand in anger and kill his brother, he shall be accounted guilty of murder and suffer accordingly.
3. If a man have a horse stolen, and overtake the thief, should his anger be so great as to cause him to shed his blood, let it remain on his own conscience, but no satisfaction shall be required of his life, from his relative or clan that he belonged to. By Order of The Seven Clans
Mail received on the subject
My great-grandmother, Adra Lee, was reported to my grandfather as being between 1/4 and 1/8 Cherokee. He claimed that his great-grandmother Sallie Crye was an Indian.
Through my own research I have found but one reference in Cherokee books that could possibly be us. There was a family headed by Cryer in Mouse Creek, which is in McMinn County, TN. That reference can be found in The 16,000 Those that Cried.
Have you found any census records from Pa, or Va which list Crye people under the all others bracket? This was often used for Free land owning Native Americans. The book shows that John A. may have been born in McMinn County, TN, was married two times, and was the father of Elias and Elihu. I can believe that since Sally married Jonathan Lee and had a son named Elihu. Eli-Hu is a Cherokee word for one who thinks.
Sallie Crye Lee always said her father and mother were born in Tennessee, not Pa. As you see, I am a little confused. Can you shed some light on this?
Now we come to the name CRYER. Some information sent to me states that this is just another variation of our Cry/Crye name, so I began to look for answers. Here is what I found:From the queries I have placed and people I have contacted, there appears to have been a tribe of Indians, The Dog Tribe, centred in North GA, southeastern, TN who went by the name CRYER. To say this is our clan, I cannot. I recently received a manuscript stating that William’s brother James was buried in Sumner Co. TN as a Rev. War Soldier and the name on the stone is James Cryer. Further checking into this revealed the following:
Sorry! But this is too broad a subject for me to answer with any authority. It is certainly something to consider in checking this variant spelling, when checking records. I am more inclined to think that CRYER was derived from the job of the Town Crier. The night watchman, who announced such things in Middle Ages as a "call to arms" and "9 o'clock and all is well!" Thanks for your interest !
I have considered CRYER to be a family line by itself - so far I have not found any spelling variations. Best wishes, Neville, in Lower Hutt, New Zealand
I show this as the CRYER CEMETERY, located 1 6/10 mi W of the intersection of Hwy 25 and Long Hollow Pike, on the south side of Long Hollow Pike. James Cryer is there, same date as you show, died 3/12/1816. It says he is a Rev. Soldier. Next to him is Mrs. Elisabeth L. Cryer d 8/10/1833, aged 40 yrs, Wife and Mother. On the other side of him is Martha Anne D. Cryer d 10/11/1832 in the 44th year of her age.
Could this be the brother to William and John of East Tennessee? Are Cryer and Crye the same? If so, please share how this information was decided upon. If this is the same family line, does someone have a relative named such I can contact for further data? Where does the Indian blood line come from? The men and family name stems from Scotland/England it appears, so, is it coming from the women they marry?
I look forward to seeing you in June to get answers to all the questions being posed to me. Maybe someone out there has the key to this mystery.
Connecting the dots......Anita
FOUND ON THE INTERNET:
Richard Duncan was a Tory and for his services had been granted a lot of land in Dundas County Ontario. These lots originally granted to Duncan later turned up in the land books as belonging to a John Gardiner. In John Gardiner’s will of 1828, he states that he was the “heir at law” of Duncan, even though he was not mentioned in Duncan’s will. A legal dictionary indicates that an “heir at law” was a blood relative entitled to inherit in case of intestacy. In the probate records for Dunday County in 1822, three years after Duncan’s death, were many records relating to the administrators’ not doing a proper job in administering the estate.
Finally Gardiner made his claim in which he had to show his relationship to Duncan. This included the sworn statement of several people, including servants, which gave the parents of both Richard and John and named their common grandparent, thus proving that they were first cousins. So, this complicated will provided three generations of family, plus a link back to Scotland in a time period when links to Europe are hard to prove.