This is the first newsletter since we had our “Photo Reunion” and I want to thank everyone who came to share your treasures. We had several who came from Ohio, Kentucky, Texas and then locally from Cleveland, Benton and Maryville. We had a good time sharing memories, pictures, food and conversation.
Several ask if we could make this a regular gathering. It is important to stay connected and learn who our relatives are. If we allow one more year to pass, then we will lose a small portion of who we are.
Pictures were brought in of Ohio Crye’s, Cumberland Co. TN, Georgia and Tennessee families. We had some sent by email from the Northern states like Wisconsin, and Iowa. We haven’t figured out who everyone is yet, but we are excited to be connecting.
Doctoring and repairing the pictures from the digital camera has proven time consuming, but my goal is to have these done by the first of the year. Then I can copy the disk and send all of those who attended a copy. This will give us “looking” time to see how each of us compare.
Each year we have a lot of changes in our lives and new people and places are conditioned in to enhance our stay on this earth. I have received emails from those who have been helping me with research on our collateral lines. This year they have lost wives, husbands, children, and relatives. It has been a sobering time. Let me extend my best wishes to each of you in the upcoming months. It is difficult loosing loved ones; especially those of us who delve into the past to preserve our future. Loosing our present sometimes causes our vision and desires to dim. With each passing of our loved ones we must determine even more so to preserve our heritage.
Happy hunting to us all. I look forward to hearing from more of you with questions for me to help find the answers to. Anita….
Words you might find in documents while tracing family lines
COMMON ANCESTOR - Ancestor shared by any two people.
CONFEDERATE - Pertaining to the Southern states which seceded from the U.S. in 1860 - 1, their government and their citizens.
CONSANGUINITY - Blood relationship.
CONSORT - Usually, a wife whose husband is living
CONVEYANCE - See deed.
COUSIN - Relative descended from a common ancestor, but not a brother or sister.
DAUGHTER-IN-LAW - Wife of one's son.
DECEASED - Dead.
DECEDENT - A deceased person.
DECLARATION OF INTENTION - First paper, sworn to and filed in court, by an alien stating that he wants to be come a citizen.
DEED - A document by which title in real property is transferred from one party to another.
DEPOSITION - A testifying or testimony taken down in writing under oath of affirmation in reply to interrogatories, before a competent officer to replace to oral testimony of a witness.
DEVISE - Gift of real property by will.
DEVISEE - One to whom real property (land) is given in a will.
DEVISOR - One who gives real property in a will.
DISSENTER - One who did not belong to the established church, especially the Church of England in the American colonies.
DISTRICT LAND OFFICE PLAT BOOK - Books or rather maps which show the location of the land patentee.
DISTRICT LAND OFFICE TRACT BOOK - Books which list individual entries by range and township.
DOUBLE DATING - A system of double dating used in England and America from 1582-1752 because it was not clear as to whether the year commenced January 1 or March 25
DOWER - Legal right or share which a wife acquired by marriage in the real estate of her husband, allotted to her after his death for her lifetime.
EMIGRANT - One leaving a country and moving to another.
ENUMERATION - Listing or counting , such as a census.
EPITAPH - An inscription on or at a tomb or grave in memory of the one buried there.
ESCHEAT - The reversion of property to the state when there are no qualified heirs.
ESTATE - All property and debts belonging to a person.
ET AL - Latin for "and others".
ET UX - Latin for "and wife".
ET UXOR - And his wife. Sometimes written simply Et Ux.
EXECUTOR - One appointed in a will to carry out its provisions. Female =Executrix
FATHER-IN-LAW - Father of one's spouse.
FEE - An estate of inheritance in land, being either fee simple or fee tail. An estate in land held of a feudal lord on condition of the performing of certain services.
FEE SIMPLE - An absolute ownership without restriction.
FEE TAIL - An estate of inheritance limited to lineal descendant heirs of a person to whom it was granted.
FRANKLIN, STATE OF - An area once known but never officially recognized and was under consideration from 1784 - 1788 from the western part of North Carolina.
Continued in the next issue
FIRST IN AN INSTALLMENT OF CIVIL WAR SOLDIERS
THEIR PENSION APPLICATION PAPERS.
Last year I sent off to the National Archives in Washington for military papers for anyone who served under the Crye/Cry name. I only received back about 5 but thought I would showcase those in the upcoming newsletters.
DAVID CRYE Cry; David Corporal; Co. “D” 105, ILL Vol. Inft.
A DISCUSSION OF WILLIAM EDWARD CRYE
I have had three or four emails from “across the pond” and thought I would post these for anyone who is researching and finding difficulty in connecting your line. It is possible that your ancestor was one of the rare ones that came from an extended Crye family, circled through America and then out, leaving only questions behind. I will include email addresses to these communiqué’s and if you think you might be able to connect, please contact the senders.
(a new connection, Pam)
I am very excited in having traced William to Tennessee as my nephew has now moved from England by chance to Pulaski, Tennessee and will marry a girl from there this July, we are attending the wedding. If anyone has information of graves etc for John I would be very interested. This is the same line of family as posted by Philip Gilbert in February 2000.
In the first issue of this publication I began a discussion of the children of John and Catherine Shimmin Crye. I only covered a few of the children, then I got sidetracked. So, today we begin again. In John’s will their children were listed as William, David, John, James, Isabella, Sarah, Catherine, and Margaret. I have been informed that there was another son, Hugh but he was not listed in the will.
See Issues 1, 2 and Issue 1 Vol 4 for previous information.
WILLIAM CRYE - first child of John & Catherine Shimmin Crye
William Crye born ca 1755 m/Sarah Higgins/Hagan
Children listed in the will & Rev. War pension papers are:
Catron born 08/27/1780 NC Joseph born 03/05/1789 GA/TN Isabel born 08/10/1798 GA/TN William Jr born 05/19/1782 SC Sarah born 09/12/1791 GA/TN James born 01/07/1801 GA/TN Hugh born 11/05/1784 GA/TN Mary born 01/20/1794 GA/TN David born 02/05/1803 GA/TN Mary born 12/08/1786 GA/TN John born 06/18/1796 GA/TN Jonathan born 09/07/1806 GA/TNIn previous dialogue I stated that I had never found anything of the child Catron, and if it was a man there should have been something in the census. Since then, I have learned much and must revise what I previously said. Let me give you this thought. When the names were listed in William’s Rev. War Pension papers, could this Catron really be Catherine? It is written in the Bible as Catron or Calron but nothing gives a clue if it is a male or femal. As we have never found any mention of Catron, I think this is a good possibility that this is really Catherine, after her mother, and possibly she married and has a new identity by 1800.
In 1790 The Crye family was living in Salbury dist. Mecklinburg Co. NC and owned land there on six mile creek. During the late 1790’s and early 1800’s the children of John and Catherine began to sell off the land, especially the sons, to the daughters who had married the Walkers. William’s brother Hugh and wife Elizabeth are listed in these transactions.
Child number two, William and Elizabeth Barker Crye, Jr and thier childre, were discussed in Issue 1 Vol 4 and Issue 2 Vol 4 in detail.
I have found no record of Hugh Crye in any of my research. there are a few High Crye's scattered around, but none match the time frame we are looking for, and I have been able to match the others with parents. So, if you have information on this child, would you please consider submitting it to me? Thank You.
Mary Crye, born in 1786 appears to have died prior to 1794 because another child was listed as Mary also. It was not unusual to name a second child in the family the same name if the first child had died. There are no records of this child, and the Bible page clearly reads Mary written for both children. So, assumption here is the 1786 Mary is dead by 1794.
To be continued
Here is an interesting article of the times when many people were migrating from Ireland to America and Australia.
I found this on the internet.
Mothers often tried to get their children back, usually they didn't.
Older workhouse children were fed:Breakfast: 1/4 lb porridge and a pint of milk
Dinner: pint of milk porridge
Supper: 1/4lb bread, spread with fresh butter
3oz cheese twice a week
Older children still: 1/2 pint beer & 1/4 lb bread (beer not very strong)
Comments from inmates and experts or people who had anything to do with it in later years.
Food always bad, cockroaches, crickets, earwigs. Stirabout thin and watery full of lumps. Maggots in bread, meat often stinking. Clothes: for girls very scanty. One petticoat, which was last year’s frock. Neither frocks nor coats worn by boys were lined. No waistcoats. Children in the infirmary slept on straw, thrown on the bed. One thin under blanket and another thin blanket for covering. When a child died, it's boots and stockings and linen weren't buried with it but passed on to other children.
Overcrowding was dreadful. 4-8 to one bed. The windows in the room where children assembled in the morning were broken.
Children’s feet covered with sores, and their hands were often so swollen that they could not draw the thread sewing. They were afflicted with the 'itch'. (Today the 'itch' would refer to scabies which does occur on the hands)
The children were savagely punished at times: one boy complained about badness of bread and he got 20 lashes with cat of nine tails. Children were stripped to waist and lashed, a 7-8 yr old got 8-9 lashes for being slow to go to bed. An older offender got 60 lashes and had an iron weight tied to his leg.
One part of the house was known as 'bedlam'.. reserved for lunatics. Children were sent there for complaining (considered refractory): this place even dustier, darker and more generally uncomfortable. The children dreaded confinement in this place.
Two old women, both infirm, minded 60 sick children under 8 years of age in the infirmary. The beds were filthy.
The 'dead hole' was a step or two from the infirmary door. A carpenter once told someone that he had seen three dead children in a bed. One witness declared that he had seen 30-35 dead children come away for burial at one time.
De nobis fabula narratur, their story is our story
A must for the serious researcher of Irish ancestors.
You Know You're Taking Genealogy Too Seriously If ---
|You are the only person to show up at the cemetery research party with a shovel|
|To put the 'final touches' on your genealogical research, you've asked all of your closest relatives to provide DNA samples.|
|You were instrumental in having 'non-genealogical' use of the genealogy room copy machine classified as a federal hate crime.|
|Your house leans slightly toward the side where your genealogical records are stored.|
|You decided to take a two-week break from genealogy, and the U. S. Post Office immediately laid off 1,500 employees.|
|Out of respect for your best friend's unquestioned reputation for honesty and integrity, you are willing to turn off that noisy surveillance camera while she reviews your 57 genealogical notebooks in your home. The armed security guard, however, will remain.|
|During an ice storm and power outage, you ignore the pleas of your shivering spouse and place your last quilt around that 1886 photograph of your dear Great-Uncle George.|
|Ed McMahon, several TV cameras and an envelope from Publishers Clearing House arrive at your front door on Super Bowl Sunday, and the first thing you say is, "Are you related to the McMahons of Ohio?"|
|'A loving family' and ‘Financial Security' have moved up to second and third place, respectively, on your list of life's goals, but still lag far behind 'Owning My Own Microfilm Reader'.|
|A magical genie appears and agrees to grant your any one wish, and you ask that the 1890 census be restored.|
Item and tidbit of interest!
January 1900. Dame Fortune has smiled on young David Cry
David Cry, son of Uncle Hugh Cry, went to Blount County last month. David is now of age and goes to claim a small inheritance that awaits him there. He expects to enter school at either Marysville College or some other point in that county and hopes to continue for two years. David is an honest and well-behaved young man, and his many friends here are gratified to learn Dame Fortune has smiled on him. (Son of David & Elizabeth Tuck, son of William & Sarah Hagan Crye.)
Please accept this small donation. I intend to finish my information on Sarah Crye Walker. I’ve been out of pocket. I hope to do better. Thank you for uniting us all. Sincerely, Ms. Porter
Just a few lines to inform you of a change of address so I can continue to receive your Crye/Cry family newsletter. Which I sure enjoy reading. I plan on getting my computer set up so I can zero in on the e-mail. I recently bought a house in WI and my father will be 96 March 1, and is living with me at the same address. His father was Zechariah and on back. Here is my old address and my new one. Sincerely, James
I recently received a letter from Norman Hairston, which interested me very much. My name is Mary Dale Crye Laux and I live in Morrilton Arkansas. My father was George Edward Crye – his parents were Joseph Alexander Crye and Nancy Della Satterfield. My father had a brother David Thomas and he was married to a Fannie Hairston. I would love to get your family newsletter. My father thought maybe the name had originally be McCroye. Any thinking on that?
I am writing as a follow-up to the e-mail I sent you earlier this year. In your reply you noted that you have a Thomas Crye in NC., living with a Hannah family. Please share the information you have on Thomas Crye and the Hannah family. I would like to know the specific time and place in NC, and also the name of the Hannah family. What records and documentation do you have?
It is special thanks I give to those who notify me of change of address. Thank You!