So much has happened, so much to share. We have moved to Madisonville, TN, just about 30 minutes from the Maryville area to pastor a church in the Monroe Co. TN hills. It seems we are headed back towards Cleveland in this move and possibly back to more research time. This is an exciting prospect for me to be able to concentrate more on my love of genealogy.
In the previous newsletters I have been writing mainly on my ancestor William Crye and Sarah Hagins. We are coming to a rapid end with this family line and will begin once again on John and Catherine Shimmon Crye. This will open the door for others to be sending in their family line for me to comment on. I could really use information on our extended family and beyond.
Once, a contact in Florida send me information on the original Crye in the IOM. I haven’t been able to prove or disprove her data, therefore I was hesitant to present it in the newsletters. However, the time has come to invistigate further this information so I can report on those findings. I will focus my attention on that material and see what we can document and report.
There are others who are doing the same research I am and completing their family lines. This is great for each family. I want to be able to share with you what I find and learn, and give credit where it is due for the research to those who share their work. So, if you are willing to share your data with me. Thank you so much. You will see from previous issues that I am wishing to “connect the dots” and your help is truly needed.
It has been a great joy and delight to have met each of you through our emails and written letters. The database is growing with extended family and dreams of a future reunion of Crye’s. Hopefully we can work toward getting another reunion ready by 2005. If you are interested, contact me. I know we could work something out.
Even though I have moved some, my address for the Crye/Cry Family Vault has remained the same.
1555 Lewis St. NE * Cleveland, TN 37311.
I look forward to hearing from you. .......Anita
In Issue 4 Vol 6 I gave you a run down on what year certain epidemics wiped out so many people. In this issue I want to give you a few definitions of medical terminology that you might find on death certificates. This will better help you in identifying when, why, and what your loved ones might have died with.
|Ablepsy - Blindness
Ague - Malarial Fever
American plague - Yellow fever
Anasarca - Generalized massive edema
Aphonia - Laryngitis
Aphtha - The infant disease "thrush"
Apoplexy - Paralysis due to stroke
Asphycsia/Asphicsia - Cyanotic and lack of oxygen
Atrophy - Wasting away or diminishing in size.
Bad Blood - Syphilis
|Cachexy - Malnutrition
Cacospysy - Irregular pulse
Caduceus - Subject to falling sickness or epilepsy
Camp fever - Typhus; aka Camp diarrhea
Canine madness - Rabies, hydrophobia
Canker - Ulceration of mouth or lips or herpes simplex
Catalepsy - Seizures / trances
Catarrhal - Nose and throat discharge from cold or allergy
Cerebritis - Inflammation of cerebrum or lead poisoning
Chilblain - Swelling of extremities caused by exposure to cold
Child bed fever - Infection following birth of a child
Chin cough - Whooping cough
Chlorosis - Iron deficiency anemia
Cholera - Acute severe contagious diarrhea with intestinal lining sloughing
Cholera morbus - Characterized by nausea, vomiting, abdominal cramps, elevated temperature, etc. Could be appendicitis
Cholecystitus - Inflammation of the gall bladder
Cholelithiasis - Gall stones
Chorea - Disease characterized by convulsions, contortions and dancing
Cold plague - Ague which is characterized by chills
Colic - An abdominal pain and cramping
Congestive chills - Malaria
Consumption - Tuberculosis
Congestion - Any collection of fluid in an organ, like the lungs
Congestive chills - Malaria with diarrhea
Congestive fever - Malaria
Corruption - Infection
Coryza - A cold
Costiveness - Constipation
to be continued
|The following communication does not apply directly to our Crye Line. What it does apply to is the boundaries and changes that have happened over time. So, if we are looking in one place for our family, we might find them simply by the changing of boundaries.|
Christy's note says from 1795 to 1803?? I have read most of those histories you mentioned, but apparently I did not glean that out of them. Do you see where I am confused?? Jackie
Continued from the last issue [ Issue 1 Vol 7]
MARGARET CATHERINE SHIMMIN
In previous issues of this publication I began a discussion of the children of John and Catherine Shimmin Crye. I have been trying to complete sharing information on this family so this article is continued from the previous issue. In John’s will he lists his children as William, David, John, James, Isabella, Sarah, Catherine, and Margaret. An additional son Hugh has been identified to me by LDS researchers but was not mentioned in the will.
WILLIAM CRYE and SARAH HAGINS CRYE
William Crye born ca 1755 m/Sarah Higgins/HaganChildren are:
Catron born 08/27/1780 NC Mary born 01/20/1794 GA/TN William Jr born 05/19/1782 SC John born 06/18/1796 GA/TN Hugh born 11/05/1784 GA/TN Isabel born 08/10/1798 GA/TN Mary born 12/08/1786 GA/TN James born 01/07/1801 GA/TN Joseph born 03/05/1789 GA/TN David born 02/05/1803 GA/TN Sarah born 09/12/1791 GA/TN Jonathan born 09/07/1806 GA/TN
Jonathan (John, William) Crye is my direct line and therefore I will tremendously enjoy this detailing of his family and life.
Jonathan Crye is first mentioned in William Crye’s Rev War Pension declaration. (See Issue 1 Vol. 1). Jonathan’s birth was given as September 7, 1806 in North Carolina. Since he was living as a minor in the household of William in 1810-1820 and 1830 (at age 24) we don’t have an actual record of him, other than the number of males in the household.
In 1840 Jonathan is married and living in McMinn Co., TN. Only heads of households are listed, but he is there with a son under the age of 5 and his wife. We still don’t know her name at this point. In the 1850 census Jonathan’s wife’s name is listed as Edith, but this cannot guarantee it was the same wife listed in 1840 Some of their children’s death certificates list their mother’s maiden name as Ayers and one list her as a Pierce/Pearce.
I have been lucky enough to obtain the family Bible that Jonathan & Edith Crye kept in their home. Only the children’s names and birth dates are listed on the front and back cover of this 4 x 7 book with the first entry beginning with Eliza. She was born March 12, 1843 and she is listed as Eliza Ayers. The next child listed is Henry Crye, born 1845, July 4; next is Pamelor Ann Crye born 1847, October 4. George Crye is listed next, born in the year 1849, November 7; Richard is listed next, born in 1851, March 12, then listed is James M, born in 1854, July 2 and finally Timothy H. Crye, born 1858, Feb 7. The youngest son, Joseph Henderson, my direct line, is not mentioned in this listing of children. Also, written on the back cover of the Bible are two more names: James Ward, and John L. Ayers. No dates or relationships are given for these names. However to be listed in the Bible one must conclude that there was some connection to this family. Having the first child listed plainly as Eliza Ayers leads you to believe that John L. Ayers was either a husband, or Edith’s father. Since Edith’s children listed her maiden name as both Ayers and Pearce/Pierce on their death certificates, conclusion could be made that she was Edith Pierce/Pearce and she married John L. Ayers. She had the daughter Eliza and he either died or left her. No court records have been found to confirm or deny any assumption. If she was left a young widow, and possibly Jonathan’s wife and son had died or left him, then it is possible that in the ten years when he had a wife and son, that by 1850 he had a new wife and daughter, Edith and Eliza.
In 1850 we look forward to knowing the name of the son listed in the 1840 census, however he is no longer in the home. According to the Bible record listed above, the first child listed for Edith is Eliza and this is confirmed from the 1850 McMinn Co., TN census. Jonathan is listed at age 44, born in NC; wife, Edith, age 29 born in TN; Eliza, daughter age 8; Henry C., son, age 5; Parmelia, age 3, daughter; and George H., a ten month old son. The son listed in the 1840 census is not found in the household again. Customary for the times he could have been put to work on another’s farm as he possibly would have been between the ages of 11-15 by 1850 or could have left home - or died, I do not know. He could have been living with a relative in another household, or if Jonathan was married to someone else before Edith, she could have taken the son with her. Way too many possibilities here.
Working through the census records and trying to connect all the people I find, I have located a John Crye, born about 1840 who is living in Alabama in 1870, he lists was born in Tennessee. Following this John leads me to believe he could be the first born of Jonathan Crye and that possible first wife theory.
In January 1854 Jonathan Crye is found in court papers in Bradley Co. TN requesting payment for a bridge he built in good faith for a one Murphy B. Stockton. Apparently, Jonathan purchased supplies and built a bridge for this man and didn’t receive the agreed upon settlement. The lawsuit was settled in favor of Jonathan Crye for two dollars debt and a further sum of three dollars and eighty-five cents. Murphy Stockton appealed the decision and was granted another hearing in the March 1854 session.
The 1860 census finds Jonathan and Edith living in Bradley Co. TN. Jonathan is listed as 48 and so is his wife (who should have been age 38/9). Eliza is not listed in the home again and as she was 18 she could have married, or she could have died. There were no death dates listed in the Bible. Destruction from fires have destroyed records prior to 1864 for Bradley Co. TN, and prior to 1860 for McMinn. The children listed in the household have aged more than the allotted 10 years as Henry would have only be 15, but is listed as 17; Parmelia would have only been 13, but is listed as Susan age 15; George H. would have only been 11, but he is listed as 13 and in addition, more children have been born into this family. Richard is 9, James is 11, and Timothy is 7. NOTE: James was not listed in the 1850 census, so he could not be 11 in 1860.
Interestingly, Jonathan Crye was 54 years old in 1860 [even though he listed his age in the census as 48] and by 1862 he had decided to contribute his efforts to the War of the Rebellion. He would have been 56 by the time he joined on September 24, 1862. His youngest son Joseph Henderson Crye was only two when this decision was made and the war fairly in its infancy. Jonathan Crye enlisted at Loudon Co., TN to serve for three years. He is counted present in the January/February 1863 roll call, but not in the March/April roll call. Listed on these same papers is the note that Jonathan Crye died April 9, 1863 in a regimental Hospital.
Jonathan Crye served with the TN 62nd Mtd Inf Co F, enlisting under Capt. James Blair. Following the battles of this company we find the battle Jonathan was wounded in was the battle of Vicksburg in MS. McClure’s group fought in the December conflict and in February casualties were listed as 9 wounded and 9 killed. The next skirmish was in May/June, so Jonathan was one of the 9 wounded in the December conflict, dying in April. No additional information is known of his military activity. He would have been in the military for three months when he fought in the battle of Vicksburg. Serving his country and his convictions, Jonathan Crye died leaving Edith a widow with seven children to raise, the youngest being a little more than two years old.
In 1870 Edith is listed as the head of the household at the age of 49 and now she says she was born in Kentucky. Living with her are her children Henry, a Teamster age 24; Parmelia age 22, Richard age 18, James M. age 15; Timothy H. age 12, and Joseph H. age 10. Take note here that Edith didn’t age but one year in this ten year span, but she is back on track to her correct age calculating from the 1850 census.
Edith Crye is listed in the tax records of Bradley Co., TN in 1862 owning 55 acres, valued at $240.00. In 1869, ’70 & ’72 she owns 40 acres valued at $100.00. In 1873 she has increased her total land holdings to 54 acres valued at $150.00 and 1874 finds the 54 acres now valued at $100.00.
In 1880 Edith is still found living in Bradley Co., TN and is listed as age 58, born in Kentucky with her father being born in NC and her mother being born in VA. Living with Edith is her son Joseph, age 20, his wife R.J. (Rebecca Jane) age 19, and Tim H., age 22. Living next door to Edith is her son James now age 26, with his wife Tiny and their so William Franklin Crye.
The 1900 Bradley Co. TN census finds some of the children remaining in the area, but Edith is no longer listed. With neither a will, a paper trail, or obituary. I do not know when she died or where she is buried. I have found a cemetery where her daughter Parmelia is buried and there are many unmarked stones there, leaving my speculation that her final resting place is probably there. The family Bible mentioned earlier was found among Parmelia’s descendants, handed down through the generations.
I have looked diligently to try to find a trace of the firstborn son listed in the 1840 census for Jonathan and his wife. I have located a John Crye living between GA/TN & AL finally settling in Hamilton Co., TN. He died in 1929 and is buried in the Chattanooga Memorial Park Cemetery. Newspaper trails do not lead me backward for this man so I have no proof that he is the son of Jonathan Crye, but theoretically he fits the profile and therefore I am placing him tentatively in this position.continued in next issue
The Scots-Irish From Ulster and The Great Philadelphia Wagon Road
Information provided by Brenda E. McPherson Compton
Continued from last issue
The Old Wagon Road
When the crops were in, they started. Early in the morning-even early for farm people, they'd set out. During the first years, they walked, leading five or six pack animals laden with supplies: tools, seed, fabric. In places, the famous path they trod was only three or four feet wide. The wilderness literally crept right up to their feet and brushed their faces as they walked. In later years they marched alongside oxen as these oversized beasts pulled two-wheeled carts heaped to overflowing, crossing rivers that licked high about their animals' flanks and often soaked every single, individual piece of their worldly possessions. Finally, when the path had been worn clear by thousands and thousands of previous travelers, they rode in wagons that, themselves, grew as the path widened into an honest to goodness road. These Pennsylvania- German-built wagons (Conestogas) at their largest would be twenty-six feet long, eleven feet high and some could bear loads up to ten tons. It took five or six pairs of horses to pull them. These big vehicles, the eighteen wheelers of their day, were called "Liners" and "Tramps." Ships would later gain their nicknames. No matter if they walked or rode, in the mid afternoon, they stopped to take care of the animals, prepare food, and put up the defense for the night. The cries of wolves in the distance and the pop of twigs just outside of the firelight sounded danger. Bands of Indians in the early days, bands of thieves later,, chased away deep sleep-no matter how tiring the day, how bone-weary the traveler. The fastest loaded wagon could go about five miles a day. The trip took a minimum of two months. Wagons broke down, rivers flooded, supplies gave out, and there was sickness but no doctors. Wagons were repaired, floods ceded, the wilderness supplied, and the sick were buried or stumbled on. This is the first great interior migration in our nation's history. It's the story of a road, the Great Pennsylvania Wagon Road.
Only a few trails cut through the vast forests, which covered the continent between the northernmost colonies and Georgia, the southern tip. The settlers, as they moved inland, usually followed the paths over which the Indians had hunted and traded. The Indians, in turn, had followed the pre-historical traces of animals. Who knows why the animals wandered where they did, but some of those early travelers on that road, the Scots-Irish Presbyterians, would have assured us it was certainly predetermined. Even so, few paths crossed the Appalachians, which formed a barrier between the Atlantic plateau and the unknown interior. In his 1755 map of the British Colonies, Lewis Evans labeled the Appalachians, "Endless Mountains." And so they must have seemed to the daring few who pierced the heart of the wooded unknown. But through this unknown, even then, there was a road. The Iroquois tribesmen of the North had long used the great warriors' path to come south and trade or make war in Virginia and the Carolinas. This vital link between the native peoples led from the Iroquois Confederacy around the Great Lakes through what later became Lancaster and Bethlehem, Pa. through York to Gettysburg and into Western Maryland around what is now Hagerstown. It crossed the Potomac River at Evan Watkins' Ferry, followed the narrow path across the backcountry to Winchester, through the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia to Harrisonburg, Staunton, Lexington, and Roanoke. On it went into Salem, NC, and on to Salisbury, where it was joined by the east-west Catawba and Cherokee Indian Trading Path at the Trading Ford across the Yadkin River. On to Charlotte and Rock Hill, SC where it branched to take two routes, one to Augusta and another to Savannah, Georgia. It was some road, but it was just a narrow line through the continuous forest. Virginia's Gov. Col. Alexander Spotswood first discovered this Great Road in 1716 when his "Knights of the Golden Horseshoe, " finally crossed the mountains, drank a toast to King George's health and buried a bottle claiming the vast valley for the King of England. His Knights' motto became "Sic Juvat Transcendere Montes, ~ or "Behold, we cross the mountains." In 1744, a treaty between the English colonists and the Indians gave the white men control of the road for the first time. By 1765 the Great Wagon Road was cleared all along it was enough to hold horse drawn vehicles and by 1775, the road stretched 700 miles. Boys and dogs, smelling like barnyards, drove tens of thousands of pigs to market along this road, which grew gradually worse the farther South you went. Inns and ordinaries, which spotted the road undoubtedly taught more than a few of them the ways of the world. But that was all later.
The majority of the folks who by the thousands would walk over Spotswood's buried bottle would have probably thought his whole 1716 ceremony a little preposterous and quite a bit pretentious. You see, they were plain folk trying to get away from Latin, from mottoes, and from knights with horseshoes no matter their element of manufacture, lead to gold. They were as different from Spotswood's cavaliers as a golden horseshoe is from an ox's hoof.
Who were the Wagon Road's Travelers?
For 118 years, the English and Dutch settled the New World, lining the harbors and pointing their cities, their eyes, their hearts to the east, across the Atlantic. They were on the fringes of a vast continent but, for the most part, they forever more turned away from it and toward home. They were certainly colonists, even those stem- faced few who came to these shores for religious reasons, and most of the other settlers, you see, had come to expand the business opportunities of home establishments. Their ties to those establishments were strong.
It took a different kind of settler, someone who had cut his ties altogether, someone who didn't really have all that much to lose, to look west at a wilderness and there see something more than raw materials ready for exploitation. It took folks like the Germans and the Scots Irish to put their backs to the ocean and see home in front of them. Escaping devastating wars, religious persecution, economic disasters, and all of those other things that still cause people to come to these shores, the Scots Irish and the Germans had no intention of returning to their native lands. They were here to stay. They didn't look east but to the south and west-toward land. They didn't see wolves and Indians. They saw opportunities. And as different as the Germans and the Scots Irish were, they had what it took to flourish in the backcountry. Not possessions that could be lost in the fording of a river, not personal contacts and the sponsorship of powerful men, but rough and tumble ability and a heavy streak of stubbornness. They knew slash and agriculture, they knew pigs, they could hunt and forage, they knew hard work. They built their cabins the exact same way. And eventually, they traveled together in that same heavy stream southward along the Great Pennsylvania Wagon Road.
In 1749, 12,000 Germans reached Pennsylvania. By 1775, there were 110,000 people of German birth in that colony, one-third of the population. When Philadelphia was a cluster of Inns and Ordinaries: the Blue Anchor, PewterPlatter, Penny-Pot, Seven Stars, Cross Keys, Hornet and Peacock, Benjamin Franklin, one of that era's most open-minded men asked, "Why should the Palatinate Boors be suffered to swan-n into our settlement and by herding together establish their language and manners to the exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a colony of aliens who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us, instead of our Anglicizing them and will never adopt our language or customs any more than they can acquire our complexion." But the Germans kept coming, thinking like their Scots Irish compatriots who are recorded as noting that! "It was against the law of God and nature that so much land should be idle while so many Christians wanted it to labor on and raise their bread." In short, Pennsylvania was flooded.
Why they Headed South
There is probably no more beautiful land anywhere than that part of Pennsylvania now known as the "Amish Country." It must have appeared to those people fresh off of the boat, truly a land flowing with milk and honey. But it filled rapidly. Land became expensive. The most important reason why the Germans and Scots-Irish put what little they owned on their backs and took the southbound road was the cost of land in Pennsylvania. A fifty- acre farm in Lancaster County, PA would have cost 7 pounds 10 shillings in 1750. In the Granville District of North Carolina, which comprised the upper half of the state, five shillings would buy 100 acres. The crossing of an ocean was move enough for most of the early immigrants. The generation, which could still feel the waves beneath their feet when elderly, often stayed in Pennsylvania, but their children repeated their parent's adventure. Often, they cast off their lines, raised what ever anchors they had, and ~'sailed" south right after their patriarchs had gone to their reward. As North Carolina's Secretary of State, William L. Saunders wrote in 1886, "Immigration, in the early days, divested of its glamour and brought down to solid fact, is the history of a continuous search for good bottom land." In their search for bottom land, English colonists encroached onto territories claimed by France. This pressure became one of the reasons the French and Indians went to war against England and her colonists. The Germans and Scots bore the brunt of the war, a cabin burning, wife-kidnapping, farm ambushing, bloody, horrible guerrilla war. For eleven years mayhem reigned on the frontier. In 1756, three years after the war started, George Washington wrote that the Appalachian frontiersmen were "in a general motion towards the southern colonies" and that Virginia's westernmost counties would soon be emptied. Western North Carolina seemed to those escaping the war to be safer because the Cherokee were on the British side-at least at the beginning. To western North Carolina they came. This French and Indian War, which started the year Rowan County was created, joined the quest for more and better land as a major factor in sending those Germans and Scots-Irish down the Wagon Road to safer territory. Not only that but, the peace treaty that ended the war stated that no English settlers would go over the Appalachians. Thus, the best unclaimed land in all of the colonies lay along the Yadkin, Catawba and Savannah Rivers between the years 1763 and 1768. When the war ended in 1764, the western settlements of Pennsylvania had suffered a loss of population. Virginia and North Carolina had grown.to be continued in the next issue
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LettersGreta, thank you so much for your informational reply. I could not find exactly to which query you responded to, they didn't print together, but, any information you have to share will help me.
I am a little confused by your response, but think you are saying that Mary Elizabeth Crye, was married to John Silas Silvers and he had a brother who also married a Crye. Is that right?
The information I have tracks Jacob Silas Silvers, who married Matilda Ellen Crye. She then married a Wheeler. But, I could have so much wrong here.
Please, since you are of the family line, can you straighten out the mess I have made? I do have that Jacob S. Silvers and Matilda Ellen Crye had a daughter Sarah Elizabeth Silvers, but little information further.
I have also listed a Frank Silvers who married Mary E. Crye and they had a child Itlay Silvers. This information came from a Jo Bennett, I think, but again, so much is wrong and I could never find census information to back this up.
You ask about the newsletters. I would love to send you hard copies as they go to print. Please, help me fill in this line. It would be a great blessing to me
Yes, my grandfather, John Silas Silvers was married to Mary Elizabeth Crye. Her sister Matilda Ellen (used her middle name) was married to John's brother, Jacob. They had a daughter, Sarah Elizabeth (called her Aunt Sadie) who lived in the Lansing area. Ellen later married a Wheeler and I have a correspondent with info on that. Sadie had 3 daughters, Dolsia, Osie and Opal who were daughters of G. W (George Washington) Bashore. They lived in DeWitt near Lansing in Ingham Co. I remember them well. I do not believe that Jacob's middle name was Silas. I will look it up & let you know.
Frank [Silvers] (do not know anyone by that name) was not married to Mary E. Crye. John Silas was. Their oldest daughter Sarah Elizabeth died at birth. Then there was a Francis Marion who dropped the "s' from his last name. He was married to a Jennie and died in Wheatland CA.
Have just got back into genealogy, am not documenting anything with birth certificates etc. "Just the facts ma'am." I am 80 and have to get this documented for my grandkids. My mothers family, Brainerd, goes back to 1642 when the first one came over from England as an indentured slave.
Dad's mother was a Crye and I have that back prior to the Civil War and I learned that they originated from the Isle of Mann. Dad's family (Silvers) only went back to my grandfather until this past weekend. I discovered that James Silvers (1705-1776) immigrated from Ireland. Am waiting for more information.
If you have the story of Hugh Cye, that is fascinating. Just learned a bit more on that if you do not have it.
If you want a list of my grandmother's family (brothers & sisters) or her family, please advise and I will email it to you. Better yet, please send me your address and I will snail-mail it.