Hello from Madisonville, TN. Isn’t it amazing how this year is slipping by so fast? I have made so many plans, and had to put them on hold that I am thinking that starting all over is a better option than trying to pick up all the pieces that I have let drop.
I have tried to get the Photo CD from the last reunion totally identified, to no avail. I have some listings with only an identity as “lady with dog”. Now, that will help no one. It has been very heart breaking to have made such a mess of those photos. I do have them all on CD, but I cannot identify them properly. So, please don’t shoot me on site because of my inability to get these to you.
Currently, one of our tasks here at this church is to mow and weed eat the cemetery beside the church. Now, that couldn’t have been planned better could it? It is amazing how I spend so much time with the dead and the past. Not desiring to miss the present and future, but continually holding on to the past. Many of the graves here are early 1900 and mid, no older ones, but that in itself is a rarity. Baby graves, and some unmarked ones. It is mostly a relative’s graveyard, although some church members have been lain to rest here. Well, so much for my outside research. Weekly mowing this cemetery has been a very large task and I am thinking flat stones are a must if we bury anyone today. Trying to get around each stone and some of them have previously been knocked over, well the work involved is tremendous.
But now for future events. My daughter is expecting her second child and we are told it will be a girl. She is due in October, so that is something to look forward to. I am trying to get family lines down so I can make sure my children and grandchildren know their past. But we all know how this works. They will care about it just about the time when I am forgetting all I have learned. But, I do have a great paper trail so at least they will have more of a start than I did when I began this search.
A few years ago my mom was diagnosed with cancer and she has had a great battle with this disease. Although she is doing pretty good right now. Dad is due surgery this month, so keep me in your thoughts. So many life changes and too many friends and family are slipping away.
Continued from Issue 2 Vol 7.
Definitions of medical terminology that you might find on death certificates.
Cramp colic - Appendicitis
Crop sickness - Overextended stomach
Croup - Laryngitis, diphtheria, or strep throat
Cyanosis - Dark skin color from lack of oxygen in blood
Cynanche - Diseases of throat
Cystitis - Inflammation of the bladder
Day fever - Fever lasting one day; sweating sickness
Debility - Lack of movement or staying in bed
Decrepitude - Feebleness due to old age
Delirium tremens - Hallucinations due to alcoholism
Dengue - Infectious fever endemic to East Africa
Dentition - Cutting of teeth
Deplumation - Tumor of the eyelids which causes hair loss
Diary fever - A fever that lasts one day
Diptheria - Contagious disease of the throat
Distemper - Usually animal disease with malaise, discharge from nose and throat, anorexia
Dock fever - Yellow fever
Dropsy - Edema (swelling), often caused by kidney or heart disease
Dropsy of the Brain - Encephalitis
Dry Bellyache - Lead poisoning
Dyscrasy - An abnormal body condition
Dysentery - Inflammation of colon with frequent passage of mucous and blood
Dysorexy - Reduced appetite
Dyspepsia - Indigestion and heartburn. Heart attack symptoms
Dysury - Difficulty in urination
Eclampsy - Symptoms of epilepsy, convulsions during labor
Ecstasy - A form of catalepsy characterized by loss of reason
Edema - Nephrosis; swelling of tissues
Edema of lungs - Congestive heart failure, a form of dropsy
Eel thing - Erysipelas
Elephantiasis - A form of leprosy
Encephalitis - Swelling of brain; aka sleeping sickness
Enteric fever - Typhoid fever
Enterocolitis - Inflammation of the intestines
Enteritis - Inflations of the bowels
Epitaxis - Nose bleed
Erysipelas - Contagious skin disease, due to Streptococci with vesicular and bulbous lesions
Extravasted blood - Rupture of a blood vessel
Falling sickness - Epilepsy
Fatty Liver - Cirrhosis of liver
Fits - Sudden attack or seizure of muscle activity
Flux - An excessive flow or discharge of fluid like hemorrhage or diarrhea
Flux of humour - Circulation
French pox - Syphilis
Gathering - A collection of pus
Glandular fever - Mononucleosis
Great pox - Syphilis
Green fever / sickness - Anemia
Grippe/grip - Influenza like symptoms
Grocer's itch - Skin disease caused by mites in sugar or flour
Heart sickness - Condition caused by loss of salt from body
Heat stroke - Body temperature elevates because of surrounding environment temperature and body does not perspire to reduce temperature. Coma and death result if not reversed
Hectical complaint - Recurrent fever
Hematemesis - Vomiting blood
to be continued
Obituary found in Crossville, TN newspaper.
CORNELL "SHORT" CRYE SR.
Graveside services for Cornell "Short" Crye Sr., 79, of Chestnut Hill Road, Crossville, who passed away Jan. 25, 1999, were held Jan. 28 at Baker's Chapel Cemetery. Bro. Chip Meadows officiated. He was born Sept. 16, 1919 in Cumberland County, the son of Nathaniel and Laura Meadows Crye. Mr. Crye was a stone cutter, and he was of the Protestant faith. He was a veteran of World War II, serving in the U.S. Army.
Survivors include his sons, Cornell Crye Jr., of Harrison, AR, Sam Crye of Crossville, and Ralph Crye of Beaufort, SC; eight grandchildren; one great-grandchild; sister, Marie Smith of Dayton, OH; and special friend, Geraldine Eldridge of Crossville. He was preceded in death by his wife, Edna Ball Crye; and brother, Joe Crye. Pallbearers were Eddie Eldridge, Kenny Eldridge, Michael Crisp, Terry Goss, Edd Meadows, and James S. Meadows. Bro. Chip Meadows officiated. Bilbrey Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements.
(this was the son of Hugh Crye & Susan Crisp, son of David and Elizabeth Tuck Crye)
The year is 1903, one hundred years ago...
what a difference a century makes.
The Scots-Irish From Ulster and The Great Philadelphia Wagon Road
Information provided by Brenda E.McPherson Compton
Continued from last editionWhat they Found
When those Scots Irish and Germans got here "the country of the upper Yadkin teemed with game. Bears were so numerous it was said that a hunter could lay by two or three thousand pounds of bear grease in a season. The tale was told in the forks that nearby Bear Creek took its name from the season Boone killed 99 bears along its waters. The deer were so plentiful that an ordinary hunter could kill four or five a day; the deerskin trade was an important part of the regional economy. In 1753 more than 30,000 skins were exported from North Carolina, and thousands were used within the colony for the manufacture of leggings, breeches and moccasins." In 1755, NC Gov. Arthur Dobbs wrote to England that the "Yadkin is a large beautiful river. Where there is a ferry it is nearly 300 yards over it, [which] was at this time fordable, scarce coming to the horse's bellies." At six miles distant, he said, "I arrived at Salisbury the county seat of Rowan. The town is just laid out, the courthouse built, and 7 or 8 log houses built." Most of Salisbury's householders ran public houses, letting travelers sup at their table-and drink, too. In 1762, there were 16 public houses. There was also a shoe factory, a prison, a hospital and armory all here before the Revolution. Even so, it was still only an outpost in the wilderness. Salisbury was for twenty-three years the farthest west county seat in the colonies. And through this outpost the wagon road ran, and on that road the immigrants continued to travel even after the area was settled. Governor Tryon wrote to England that more than a thousand wagons passed through Salisbury in the Fall and Winter of 1765. That works out to about six immigrant wagons per day. This river area now is part of High Rock Lake.
In the last sixteen years of the colonial era," wrote historian Carl Bridenbaugh, "Southbound traffic along the Great Philadelphia Wagon Rowan was numbered in tens of thousands. It was the most heavily traveled road in all America and must have had more vehicles jolting along its rough and tortuous way than all the other main roads put together."
When the British captured Philadelphia, the Continental Congress escaped down the Pennsylvania Wagon Road. Daniel Boone and Davy Crockett traveled it. George Washington knew it as an Indian fighter. John Chisholm knew it as an Indian trader. Countless soldiers-Andrew Jackson, Andrew Pickens, Andrew Lewis, Francis Marion, Lighthorse Harry Lee, Daniel Morgan, and George Rogers Clark, among them-fought over it. Both the North and South would use it during the Civil War.
And down this road, this glorified overgrown footpath through the middle of nowhere leading to even greater depths of nowhere, came those people looking for a better life for themselves and their children, down it came those settlers, those hardworking stubborn Scots Irish and Germans: the preachers, the blacksmiths, and farmers.
When the crops were in, on a day like today, they started.
In previous issues of this publication I began a discussion of the children of John and Catherine Shimmin Crye. I have been trying to complete sharing information on this family so this article is continued from the previous issue. In John’s will he lists his children as William, David, John, James, Isabella, Sarah, Catherine, and Margaret. An additional son Hugh has been identified to me by LDS researchers but was not mentioned in the will.
This picture is adapted from the Journal of the Lancaster County Historical Society,
Vol. 51, page 68.The Conestoga wagon had broad wheels, the rear wheels being larger than the front, a white fabric hood that was about 12' long and about 4' 8" high, and a convex, from front to back, wagon box which was about 8' 10" long and 3' 6" wide. It was made for a heavy load and with six horses could carry over 7 tons. The Prairie Schooner used on the plains was much lighter. It used two to four horses and the wagon box, with the wheels removed, was floated as a boat.
Charlotte-Mecklenburg, North Carolina
Two hundred fifty years ago our Scotch-Irish ancestors traveling the great wagon road from Philadelphia stopped at the crossroads of two ancient Native American trading paths just east of the Catawba River. There they built a settlement. As friends and neighbors joined them, the community grew. In 1768 the town was incorporated and named Charlotte in honor of the wife of King George III, the reigning English monarch. Local citizens again honored the Queen when they named the new county Mecklenburg after her German homeland.
First Scots Presbyterian Church
First Scots Presbyterian Church, the fifth oldest church in Charleston, was constructed in 1814. Its design was perhaps inspired by St. Mary's Cathedral in Baltimore, Maryland designed by Benjamin Latrobe. Latrobe was the first professionally trained American architect, best known for designing the United States Capitol. The massive brick Presbyterian Church has walls that are three feet thick and covered with stucco. Twin towers rise above a columned portico. Reflecting the heritage of the congregation, the seal of the Church of Scotland is displayed in the stained glass window over the main entrance, and the decorative wrought iron grilles contain thistles, the symbol of Scotland. First Scots replaced the congregation's first church, a frame building previously located in the southeast corner of the graveyard. The graveyard contains more than 50 stones that date earlier than 1800.
The congregation of First Scots dates to 1731 when 12 Scottish families withdrew from the Meeting House, located at the site where the Circular Congregational Church now stands. These members formed Scot's Kirk or the Scotch Meeting House, and were associated with the Presbytery of Charleston and later the Presbyterian Church of the United States. Their first building was finished in 1734 and used for worship until the current church was built. Unique silver and pewter tokens were used for admission to Communion. During both the Revolutionary War and Civil War services were not held. Like many other buildings in Charleston, the church was damaged by the 1886 earthquake, as well as a hurricane the year before. Presbyterians from the North assisted in the restoration of First Scots, and two other Presbyterian churches in Charleston damaged by these natural disasters. Several memorial windows remain that were placed after the earthquake. Recently an English bell made in 1814, the year of the church's construction, was hung in the north tower, replacing the original which had been given to the Confederate army for cannons. First Scots Presbyterian is one of more than 1400 historically significant buildings within the Charleston Old and Historic District.
First Scots Presbyterian Church is located at 53 Meeting St. near its intersection with Tradd St. The church is open to the public. Call 843-722-8882 for further information
This concludes the article The Scots-Irish From Ulster and The Great Philadelphia Wagon Road. This gives us a very clear picture of what was facing our ancestors and the reasons behind many of their decisions to move and shift. I hope you could relate this to your particular ancestor.
Excerpt from: From The Devil's Triangle to the Devil's Jaw by Richard Winer, Bantam Books, Inc., New York, 1977. pp. 210-12
There is a little town in southeastern Pennsylvania named Conestoga. It has a population of around three thousand. The old-timers in Conestoga will tell you that their town's claim to fame derives from the fact that it was there, in Lancaster County, that the famous Conestoga covered wagons were developed and built back in the late 1700s and early 1800s. The Conestoga wagons were noted for their broad-rimmed wheels, which enabled them to go through soft sand and mud. The wagons figured quite prominently in the development of the American West. That is their town's claim to fame, the people will tell you. Very few, if any, citizens of Conestoga realize that their little community also figures, even if indirectly, in one of the many continuing mysteries of the sea. For a ship was named after the little town.
The U.S.S. Conestoga was built in 1904 by the Maryland Steel Company at Sparrows Point, Maryland. She was used privately as a seagoing tug and salvage vessel until November 10, 1917, when the United States Navy took her over. The ship was initially assigned to the submarine force. Her duties were along the Atlantic coast. She also transported supplies and escorted convoys to Bermuda and the Azores. During much of her wartime career, she worked out of the Azores, escorting or towing disabled ships into safe harbors. After the war, the Conestoga was based in the Fifth Naval District at Norfolk. There she served for several years in the navy yard as a harbor tug.
The men of the navy claim that there are two types of seagoing navies - the fighting navy and the working navy. The Conestoga belonged to the latter. Duty aboard a navy tug can get rather rugged at times.
You are out on the water in all weather, working with heavy towlines solidly frozen with ice, continuously being around dirt and grime, and you are based near a liberty port but serving aboard a ship there that is kept so busy that you rarely get ashore. Added to these drawbacks is the fact that tugboats are far from being the most comfortable vessels in any kind of a rough sea. In 1920, therefore, when the Conestoga received orders to travel to the United States Navy Base at Tutuila, Samoa, where she was to serve as station ship, the crew was quite elated. For weeks afterwards, the main topics of discussion aboard the vessel were hula girls and swaying palm trees.
The Conestoga was readied for the passage and put out from Hampton Roads, Virginia, on November 18,1920, for the Pacific. After the ship cleared the Panama Canal, it was decided that she would need some alterations before heading out across the open Pacific. So her destination was changed to San Diego, where she arrived on January 7, 1921. On February 17, she steamed for Mare Island Navy Yard up the coast, where she underwent further repairs and modifications.
After a picture-taking session, the Conestoga put to sea from Mare Island on March 25, 1921. Finally she was under way for the lands of hula dancers and swaying palm trees. There were fifty-six officers and men in her crew. Nothing was ever heard from the U.S.S. Conestoga after she sailed from that California port, for she never reached the islands of hula girls and swaying palm trees.
On May 17, 1921 the S.S. Senator was steaming at latitude 18 degrees 15' north and longitude 115 degrees 42' west when her lookout sighted the wreckage of a lifeboat. Closer inspection revealed a bronze letter C on the boat's bow. The Senator's crew removed the letter and sent it to the Navy Department. However, no determination could be made as to whether or not the C came from a boat belonging to the Conestoga.
During the search for the missing tug in an area southeast of the Hawaiian Islands, one of the search vessels, the United States submarine R-14, for some reason that no one could explain, lost every source of power- both electrical and diesel. The submarine lay dead in the water. Without any of its communications systems working, the crew was virtually helpless. All attempts at repairs failed. The navy announced that one of its submarines was overdue. When everything seemed hopeless, an obscure seaman got the wild idea of sails. Actually, the idea wasn't so wild after all. With her periscope for a mast and deck canvas for sails, the R-14 sailed into Hilo, Hawaii, on May 15, after five days under sail. Thus ended what was probably the longest, if not the only, voyage ever made by a submarine under sail.
On June 30, 1921, after an extensive search, the navy declared the Conestoga and her crew as having been lost without a trace.
If you ever drive through Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, stop off at Conestoga and ask any of the townsfolk what their town is famous for. They will tell you "Covered wagons."
Here is a special note taken from the Cumberland Co. TN area.
(from Clyde, a fellow researcher looking for the surname of Sweesey)I have been going through the Cumberland County Court records from the beginning in 1759. One thing I found was the penalty for horse stealing. When a man was found guilty the sentence was "He was to be taken to the public pillar, His ears were to be cut off and nailed to the pillar, and he was to receive 31 lashes on his bare back". About 1788, the sentence was changed to having his hair and beard cut off and he was to be dressed in what sounded like a crude set of clothes and fed a plain but wholesome meal and spend a time in jail. I wonder if the change in the government was the cause of the change in the penalty.
There are lots of names in these court files. I did a rough count on one term and came up with about 160 names in one term. There were 4 terms a year, but often the same names would be in several terms. The main charges were assault, rioting, fornication, stealing, forcible entry, forgery, adultery, and keeping a tippling house. There were occasional entries where a man and his wife were both named. Very informative, but I only found one item on a SWEESEY. That was where PETER SWEESEY was a bondsman. Clyde
Continued from the last issue [ Issue 2 Vol 7 ]
MARGARET CATHERINE SHIMMIN
WILLIAM CRYE and SARAH HAGINS CRYE
William Crye born ca 1755 m/Sarah Higgins/Hagan
Catron born 08/27/1780 NC Mary born 01/20/1794 GA/TN William Jr born 05/19/1782 SC John born 06/18/1796 GA/TN Hugh born 11/05/1784 GA/TN Isabel born 08/10/1798 GA/TN Mary born 12/08/1786 GA/TN James born 01/07/1801 GA/TN Joseph born 03/05/1789 GA/TN David born 02/05/1803 GA/TN Sarah born 09/12/1791 GA/TN Jonathan born 09/07/1806 GA/TNJonathan (John, William) Crye is first mentioned in William Crye’s Rev War Pension declaration. (See Issue 1 Vol. 1). Jonathan’s birth was given as September 7, 1806 in North Carolina.
John (John, William, Jonathan) Crye married Elizabeth Hill in Jackson Co., AL in 1869. Their first child was a boy and he was named James M. If this John is truly the firstborn son of Jonathan and Edith Ayers it would seem plausible that he would name his son after a younger brother, James Monroe Crye who was born in 1854, only six or so years younger than John.
This John who married Elizabeth Hill is listed in the census records as John H. Crye, John C. Crye, and John J. Crye. His death certificate list his name as John J. Crye and Elizabeth Hill Crye’s death certificat list her as Mrs. J. J. Crye. Again, just to clarify, this may or may not be the firstborn son of Jonathan Crye who married Edith L. Ayers/Pierce/Pearce. Please keep this in mind. The information I have found on this John and Elizabeth Hill Crye is solid from John forward, but not backward. I will continue with this family line as though he is Jonathan’s son until proven otherwise. If there is anyone in this family who is reading this, please email me or contact me in some way so I will know the correct order of this family. Thank you. Now, forward.
John and Elizabeth Hill Crye are first found in the 1870 Marshall Co., AL census living with Lettie J. Williams, age 36, Mary F. age 9; Abram age 5; Martha Hill age 65; Charlotta age 22; Mary S. age 16; and John Crie 25; and Elizabeth Crie age 32. John and Elizabeth state they were both born in Tennessee.
The 1880 census finds John and Elizabeth living in Jackson Co., AL with children James M. age 9, Mary E., age 7, Paralee age 4, and Wallace H. age 1. The 1900 census finds the family in Hamilton Co., TN with only Walter (Wallace) age 18 (should be 21) living in the household with them. In 1910 the family is in Chattooga Co., GA with only John and Elizabeth together. John is working in a cotton mill. The 1920 census finds Wallace Crye in Hamilton Co., TN with his parents John and Elizabeth living with him and his wife Emma and their four children.
According to the death certificate for Mrs. J. J. Crye (Elizabeth Hill Crye), she died March 6, 1923 in Hamilton Co., TN from senility. W. C. Crye was the informant and he didn’t know who Elizabeth’s parents were.
Her newspaper obituary reads as follows: March 6, 1923 – Mrs. Elizabeth Cry, aged 74, died yesterday at 12 o’clock at her residence, 9 Liberty Street, North Chattanooga. She is survived by her husband J. C. Cry; two sons, Wallace H. and J. M.; and a daughter, Mrs. D. N. Chambers, all of Chattanooga. Funeral services will be held from the funeral home of the R. J. Coulter company this afternoon at 2 o’clock, the Rev. T. W. Callaway officiating. Pall bears are announced as: Wallace Cry, Jr., Wallace Chambers, Roy Chambers, J.M. Wooten, J. C. Wooten, and J. A. Hill. Interment will be in White Oak Cemetery.
NOTE: Apparently the daughter Paralee had died prior to 1923;
John J. Crye died March 14, 1928 and the notation was made that he was not attended by a physician: he dropped dead. Wallace Crye was the informant on his death certificate and Wallace didn’t know who John’s parents were. John J. Crye’s occupation was listed as a pattern maker.
John’s obituary reads as follows: March 15, 1928 – John J. Cry, age 79, dropped dead at is home 1816 Cowart, early Wednesday night. Surviving are one daughter, Mrs. D.N. Chambers; two sons, W. H. and J. J. Cry all of this city. Funeral services will be held from the Nelson Funeral home at 2 o’clock this afternoon with the Rev. W. S. Keese officiating. Funeral services will be private. Interment will follow in the Chattanooga Memorial Park.
NOTE: J. J. Crye son should be J. M. Crye.
John(John, William, Jonathan) Crye and Elizabeth Hill’s first child was James Monroe Crye who married Josephine P. Scott. James and Josephine had two children: Catherine, who married William Edward Wallace, and Josephine who married an Unknown Ashby. James and Josephine are found exclusively in Hamilton Co., TN from 1900-1930. The 1900 census list James and Josephine as being married five years with no children, occupation of James is a carpenter. James M.’s age was listed as 28 and his wife as 20 giving her age at marriage as 15. The 1910 census gives their age as 38 for James and 30 for Josephine and they have been married for 15 years with one child born and one alive. This would have been Catherine and she is 5-years-old. James’ occupation has now changed to evangelist/preacher. The 1920 census list their ages as 47 and 37 with two children in the household. Catherine is now 10 (should be 15) and Josie E. the second daughter is 5. James’ occupation is listed as “repairs furniture at home”. The 1930 census lists James’ age at 60 (married at age 24) and Josephine age 55 (married at age 19) still together and no children in the household. His occupation listed was nothing more than “furniture”.
James M. Crye’s death Cert #5275 listed he died of cardiovascular disease. The informant was his daughter Catherine Wallace and she listed James’ parents as J. H. Crye and his mother was listed as Sarah, both born in Alabama.
The obituary for James M. Crye reads as follows: April 19, 1939 – James M. Crye, 69, lifelong Chattanoogan and a member of the volunteer militia company which fought many years ago in the Coal Creek mine insurrection died early yesterday morning at his residence, 1812 Broad Street. Mr. Crye is survived by his wife, Mrs. Josephine Crye and two daughters, Mrs. Catherine Wallace and Mrs. Josephine Ashby, all of Chattanooga, and seven grandchildren. Funeral services will be held at 2:30 o’clock this afternoon at the residence, the Rev. R. R. Denny officiating. Burial will be in Chattanooga Memorial Park. Arrangements by Smith Funeral Services.
NOTE: I found an application for a marriage for James M. Crye in DeKalb Co., AL March 29, 1890 to a Mattie Lively. (The marriage was listed as NR [not returned]).
James M. and Josephine’s first child Catherine married William Wallace. William is listed as a molder in a foundry in 1930 and they are living beside her father James M. Crye in Hamilton Co., TN. William and Catherine married in January of 1926 in Walker Co. GA, and in the 1930 census they have two children, James M. Wallace, age 5, and Wilburn A. Wallace, age 2 months.
Catherine’s obituary reads as follows: August 7, 1967 – Mrs. Katherine Crye Wallace, 58, of 3704 Fourth Ave. wife of William E. Wallace, died suddenly Sunday afternoon in a local hospital.
A lifelong resident of Hamilton Co., she was the daughter of the late James and Josephine Scott Crye. She was a member of the Second Baptist Church. Other than her husband, she is survived by eight sons, James W., Edward L., Charles E., Raymond O., David, Ronald E., Carl, and Ralph F. Wallace, all of Chattanooga; six daughters, Mrs. Joan Arrendondo, Charleston, SC; Mrs. Evelyn Underdown, Mrs. Patricia Shaw, Miss Rans Jannette Wallace, Miss Linda Wallace, and Miss Brenda Wallace all of Chattanooga; one sister, Mrs. Josephine Ashby, Chattanooga. There are 21 grandchildren. Funeral services will be held Tuesday afternoon at 3:30 in the chapel of Turner Funeral Home with the Rev. Willard Peek officiating. Arrangements by Turner’s. NOTE: That would be 14 children.continued in the next issue
LettersMike, I am trying to get some information on Polly Crye who married Wm Irick/Bick/Quick 1840 in Bartholomew Co. IN. There was a George Irick with a son old enough to marry, but I don't find Irick
again, especially not a William. [Anita]
I have nothing more than the entry indicating that Polly's husband's name was William Irick. I believe that Paul Sigler was the source for that data - but I can't confirm. [Mike]
Do you have any contacts that are searching this family? [Anita]
Not that I know of. [Mike]
I have been online trying to trace anything, but am coming up zero. Your help is appreciated.
Also, did you ever find out where we got the information about John Crye being a clothier? Irene didn't know off hand, and the Paul Sigler hasn't responded, so I am back to you. [Anita]
The entry that I recorded for this data says "Information provided by Paul Sigler from the records of Judy Hopkins, 8/98". ‘Fraid that's the best I can do. [Mike]