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 VOL 9


April 2005

      Hello everyone.  Congratulations are in order once again, for my daughter has given birth to her third child, a boy.  He is named Garin, after my father Rev. G. L. Geren who passed away in August of 2003.  MiniSu has moved here to Cleveland to be closer to us and we are excited about having our grandchildren in our lives daily so they will get to know us.  My son’s son lives in Knoxville, therefore we don’t see him as much, but are keeping close watch through email and photos shared over the web.  What a wonderful tool.
      I have had a great thought and I am looking at beginning a project for our county, digitizing all the tombstones in our largest cemetery, Fort Hill.  This will be a yearlong project, maybe two, but well worth the effort in getting this online.  So many people come to Bradley County looking for the graves of their ancestors, and with this cemetery covering seven city blocks long and four deep, over 40 acres, and stones dating back to the Civil War, this will be a project of mass proportions.  I have enlisted the assistance of a trusted co-worker and genealogist friend to finalize this project, and give me support when I run up against the wall thinking it is too much to handle.  She will be an invaluable assistance when this goes to publication.
      What began this process of thought is my searching for a grave for an ancestor for about 8 years in this particular cemetery.  I have driven by his stone hundreds of times, walked all around it, and possibly have even touched the backside of this marker, not knowing that it was what I was looking for.  Just by accident one day during lunch I went once again to the cemetery to search for Ed. Carroll’s grave and was taking photos of a certain family member’s stone, one that there is much question about, (supposedly this lady is buried in two separate cemeteries) when what to my surprise – there it was.  I stood right there and laughed out loud for some time, knowing that I had been all over it for years, but never seeing it.
      It was not like it was covered or anything.  To the contrary, the stone is white, bright white, and stands about 3 feet tall.  The problem of my never seeing it was that I always approach this section of the cemetery from the roadside.  Never looking around at the front of this particular stone.  The rest of the graves have markers with identification on both sides, so I hadn’t taken the time to walk around this individual one.  How blessed, and surprised I was when I walked around that day, taking more photos of the family graves and through my camera lens there was the jewel of great prize I had been looking for - for so long.  What a treasure and find.
      I promptly took my daughter there the next day and showed her where her grandfather is buried, her great grandfather & mother, her great, great grandfather and mother, and her great, great, great grandfather are buried.  This same cemetery holds so many of my family, digitizing it will be an adventuresome joy, and I am sure will yield many other surprises in family finds.  I can’t wait to tell you of all my finds.
      Until later…….Connecting the dots…….Anita


Some words have many meanings; listed here are the definitions that pertain to wills, deeds, land patents & inventories.  All words listed here were found in these documents.

refractory -  Stubborn, obstinate, hard to manage (used in reference to  slaves) 

relict - Widow

riddle  - To separate or sift as grain from the chaff

remise -  To give, grant or release a claim to: deed

rod  - Equal to 16.5 feet

rundlet  - A small barrel or cask of varying capacities (archaic); the amount of liquor 
 contained in this an old British liquid measure usually taken as equal to 
 about 18 wine gallons (archaic)

Scimita -  A saber made of a curved blade with the edge on the convex side and used 
 chiefly by Arabs and Turks (in one Will it was left to his son).

seize -  To vest ownership of a free hold estate; seizer: one that seizes; seizure: to take possession of person or property by legal process

seizin -  To seize.  In law: possession, specifically possession of a  freehold estate

shilling -  Monetary unit of Great Britain; one shilling equals 12 pence; 1/20th of a 
 pound; written, i.e.: 15/ = 15 shillings.

shoat -  A young hog

shuck  - The covering shell or husk of corn; to shuck (corn) is to remove the outer covering.

sickle -  Cutting tool consisting of a crescent-shaped blade with a short handle used for cutting down tall grasses & weeds

skein -  A quantity of thread, silk or yarn wound in a coil (in one inventory it was spelled scains)

socage -  A tenure of land by agricultural service fixed in amount and kind or by payment of money rent only and not burdened with any military service.

specie - - A form of payment in gold, silver or other coin as distinguished from paper money

spider -  A frying pan, originally one with attached legs for use over an open fire

steelyard -  A balance or scale consisting of a metal arm suspended off center from  above: object to be weighed is hung from the shorter end, & a sliding weight is moved along the graduated longer end until whole arm balances.

subjoin -  To add at the end; to add after something has been said or written; to append (as an item subjoined to a Will)

suite -  (suit) Suite is archaic form of suit. Action to secure justice in a court of law;  attempt to recover a right or claim through legal action

to be continued in next issue

Frank Crye Sept 17, 1957 Chattanooga Times
BENTON, TN  Sept 17 – Frank Crye, 74, died early today at the home of a son in Orlando, FL.
     He was a former employee of the Tennessee Valley Authority, a member of Conasauga Masonic Lodge.  He was born in Bradley County, but spent much of his life in Polk Co.
     Survivors include his wife and two sons, Warren G. of Orlando, and Milas of Pennsylvania; five brothers. E.M. of Benton, Lee of Carthage, OK; Marion, LaFayette, GA; Scott and Charles of Jamestown, AL; two sisters, Mrs. Morris Clifton, Summerville, GA, and Mrs. Luke Lee of Blanche, AL.
     Funeral services will be conducted in Orlando on Thursday.

Crye, Warren G. “Fats” Nov 21, 1996 Chattanooga Times
Crye, Warren G. “Fats” 76, of Orlando, FL died Sunday at his home.  Formerly of Polk Co. TN he attended Polk Co. High School, was a member of Woodhaven Baptist Church, Orlando and Benton (TN) Masonic Lodge, recently receiving his 50-year pin.  He was retired from Poli Brothers Construction Co, Orlando.  He was the brother of the late William M. Crye.  Survivors include his wife, Annie Roberts Crye; two daughters, Sherry Dominey, Karen Nottingham, all of Orlando; and grandson.  Masonic graveside services were Wednesday in Orlando.  Memorial contributions may be made to the American Heart Association.


Bonnie LaFerry  May 28, 2000, Chattanooga Times
RICEVILLE – Bonnie Crye Trotter LaFerry of Suburban Hills, TN, died Friday, May 26, 2000 at her home.  She was 78.
     Mrs. LaFerry was a native of Alabama and a member of North Etowah Baptist Church and Eastern Star.  She was a secretary at Taylor Implement Co, in Athens, TN for many years, retired as a secretary with TVA and returned to work at Corley Manufacturing Co. where she later retired.
     Mrs. LaFerry was preceded in death by her first husband, Lafayette C. Trotter and second husband, Edgar LaFerry.
     Survivors include two sons, Jerry and Darryl Trotter, both of Athens; two stepsons, George LaFerry, Birmingham, AL and Wayne LaFerry, Etowah; a brother, Grady L. Crye, Benton, TN; three granddaughters and two great-grandsons.
     A graveside service will be Monday at 11 a.m. at Benton Memorial Gardens with the Rev. Michael Reed officiating.
     Visitation will be today from 5 to 8:30 p.m. at Jerry Smith Funeral Home in Athens.
     Memorial contributions may be made to McMinn Area Cancer Relief Fund, c/o Lisa Stewart, Athens Regional Medical Center, Athens, TN  37303 or North Etowah Baptist Church, Etowah, TN  37331

William & Sarah Hagins Crye’s son James’ descendants

Chattanooga Times Sept 10, 1972

CRYE, MRS. LENA L., 79, a resident of 16 1st St. Trion, GA died Saturday at 1:20 a.m. in Trion Community Hospital.  Mrs. Crye was born in Cherokee County Alabama, March 17, 1893, the daughter of the late James and Alfarata Owens Lewis.  She was preceded in death by her husband, Hugh H. Crye, July 19, 1941.  She was a member of the Trion Presbyterian Church.  Surviving are a daughter, Mrs. John Knox, Rt. 3 Summerville, GA; a son, Gordon Crye, Trion; a brother Gracy Lewis, Jamestown AL; three grandchildren; several nieces and nephews.  Funeral services will be held Sunday at 3 p.m. from the Trion Presbyterian Church with the Rev. Ronald Reagon officiating. Burial will be in Union Hill Cemetery.  Active pallbearers are Hillman Hicks, Bobby Haygood, John Neal, Duane Gaylor, Bill Shamblin, and Harvey Gilreath who are asked to meet at the funeral home at 2:30 Sunday.  The body is in state at the funeral home.  Erwin Petitt Funeral Home in charge of arrangements.

Chattanooga Times  April 5, 1979

CRYE – CHARLIE MADISON, age 87, a resident of Route 1 Menlo GA, passed away Wednesday.  He was born in Bradley County, TN September 22, 1891.  The son of the late James Hawkins Crye, and Melvinnie Fortner Crye, he was a retired farmer, and a member of the Bethel Methodist Church. He was preceded in death by his wife, the late Venice Leal Crye.  Surviving are four daughters, Mrs. Mattie Lou Jackson, Fort Payne, AL, Mrs. Zula Mae Hutton, Fort Oglethorpe, Mrs, Audrey Silvey, Carney NC and Mrs. Mozelle Willingham, Menlo; one son Moseley Crye, Summerville; 18 grandchildren; 29 great grandchildren; several nieces and nephews.  Funeral will be Friday at 2 p.m. from the chapel of Erwin Petitt Funeral Home, with the Rev. John Crowe, the Rev. G. W. Rosson, the Rev. Steve Winters officiating.  Burial will be in Berea Cemetery.  Active pallbearers will be Dale Jackson, Lonnie Willingham, Charles Rickett, Glenn Rickett, David Smith, Derryl Hutton.  Honorary pallbearers are Dr. Gary L. Smith, and nurses of the Chattooga County Hospital and Oakview Nursing Home.  The body will lie in state at the funeral home after 3 p.m. Thursday, where the family will receive friends from 7 to 9 p.m.  Erwin – Petitt Funeral Home, Summerville, in charge of arrangements.

Chattanooga Times May 5, 1992

CRYE – CHARLIE MOSELEY, 68, of Summerville, GA died Sunday in a hospital there.  A native of Chattooga Co. GA, he was a veteran of World War II and was a Methodist.  He was retired from Mount Vernon Reigel Mills.  Survivors include his wife, Edna Willingham Crye, four sisters, Zula Mae Hutton, Fort Oglethorpe, Mattie Lou Hansord, Fort Payne, AL, Audrey Sibley, Lakeland, FL, and Mozell Willingham, Menlo; several nieces and nephews,  Services will be at 1:30 p.m. today in the funeral home chapel with the Rev. Dale Willingham, the Rev. G. W. Rosson and the Rev. John E. Tinney officiating.  Burial will be in Greenhills Memory Gardens.  Arrangements by the Hill Chapel of Lane Funeral Home, Summerville

Chattanooga Times, April 4, 1998

CRYE, JIMMYE LEE, 78 of Hixson, died Friday April 3, 1998 in a local nursing home.  A native of Alabama, she was a former employee of J. C. Penny Co, a Sunday school teacher at Hamill Road Presbyterian Church and a member of Hixson United Methodist Church.  She was the widow of Theodore Owens Crye.  Survivors include two sons, Danny and Rodney Crye, both of Hixson; two granddaughters.  Services will be at 2:30 p.m. Monday in the funeral home chapel with Dr. Al Bowles and the Rev. John Bacon officiating.  Burial will be in Hamilton Memorial Gardens.  Visitation will be 5-7 p.m. Sunday at the North Chapel of Chattanooga Funeral Home.

William & Sarah Hagins Crye’s son James’ descendants


Email Conversation on land measurements
After reading land deeds, this will come in handy. 

 Nobody has commented why 1 perch is peculiar… so I will.
      An acre is one chain by ten chains (one furlong) and was the amount one man could plough in a day - on what type of soil I do not know.
      Now a furlong (furrow long) is 220 yards, one eighth of a mile.  A chain is 22 yards, i.e. 66 feet.  A (linear) perch is one quarter of a chain, 16 and a half feet.
      So a square perch is 272 and a quarter square yards, or in terms of acres it is one quarter by one fortieth, equals one 160th.  And no need for decimals!  I doubt they used decimals a thousand years ago.
      Some of us learnt all this at school over fifty years ago.  Regards     Bill G-J in frosty Britain

Thanks Bill!
      We're glad you did.  I like that a square perch is 1/160th of an acre; and a perch is also called a rod.  My Dad always talked about his farm field sizes in terms of rods.  And a square chain (10 x 10 chains) is 10 acres, which is same as saying a 40-rod by 40-rod field is 10 acres.
      Four such squares makes 40 acres and do that 4 times and you have 160 acres.  Hmmm, interesting, a square of 160 rods by 160 rods equals 160 acres.  Who knew?     Cheers,

      And that means a square plot of 160-acres is half a mile by half a mile - it seems that 160 acres was a standard allocation to settlers.     Bill

      And 160 acres was a quarter section of land.  In the Oklahoma Land Run, homesteads were laid out in 160-acre plots.
 In addition to the square rod or perch (16 1/2 feet on a side, 160 to an acre), there is also a square measure called a rood, which is 1/4 of an acre, or 40 square rods or perches.  Just to complicate matters, in some localities, it is also called a rod.
 If a farm area is given in acres and rods and there are three or less of the latter, a check is necessary to determine whether roods may have been meant. If the area is given in acres, rods and perches, it's safe to assume the second term actually means roods. Donn Devine  Wilmington,  DE

1 Acre = 43,560 square feet
1 Acre = 160 square rods
1 Acre = 1.1834 square arpents
1 Acre = 10 square chains
1 Acre = 160 square rods
1 Acre = 160 perches
1 Acre = 160 poles
1 Acre = .4047 hectare
1 Acre = 4047 square meters
1 Acre = is about 208 3/4 feet square
1 Acre Square = 5645.376 square varas

Arpen measurements vary by locality:
1 Arpent (in LA, MS, AL, FL) = .84625 of 
 an acre
1 Arpent Square (in LA, MS, AL, FL) = 191.994 feet or 2.909 chains on each side
1 Arpent (AR and MO) = .8507 of an acre
1 Arpent Square (AR and MO) = 192.5 feet or  2.91667 chains on each side

1 Caballeria (Texas-Spanish) = 108 acres
1 Centimeter = .3937 inches
1 Centimeter = .032808 feet
1 Chain = 66 feet
1 Chain = 4 rods
1 Chain = 4 perches
1 Chain = 4 poles
1 Chain = 100 links
1 Chain = 20.1168 meters
1 Foot = 12 inches
1 Foot = .36 varas
1 Furlong = 660 feet
1 Furlong = 40 rods
1 Foot = 0.3048006 meter
1 Hectare = 10,000 square meters
1 Hectare = 2.471 acres
1 Inch = .0254 meter
1 Kilometer = 3280.83 feet
1 Kilometer = .62 mile
1 Knot = 6080.2 feet
1 Labor (Texas-Spanish) = 1,000,000 square v aras
1 Labor = 177.136 acres
1 League (Texas-Spanish) = 25,000,000  square varas

1 League = 4428.4 acres
1 Link = 7.92 inches
1 Link = .66 feet
1 Link = .2017 meter
1 Meter = 3.280833 feet
1 Meter = 39.37 inches
1 Meter Square = 10.764 square feet
1 Mile = 5,280 feet
1 Mile = 8 furlongs
1 Mile = 320 rods
1 Mile = 80 chains
1 Mile = 1.60935 kilometers
1 Mile = 320 perches
1 Mile = 320 poles
1 Mile = 8000 links
1 Mile = 1,609.2655 meters
1 Mile Square = a regular Section of land
1 Mile Square = 27,878,400 square feet
1 Mile Square = 640 acres
1 Mile Square = 259 hectares
1 Mile Square = 2.59 square hectares
1 Perch = 25 links
1 Perch = 1 pole
1 Perch = 1 rod
1 Perch = 16.5 feet
1 Pole = 16.5 feet
1 Pole = 1 perch
1 Pole = 1 Rod
1 Rod = 1 pole
1 Rod = 1 perch
1 Rod = 16.5 feet
1 Section = 1 mile long, by 1 mile wide
1 Section = 640 acres
1 Sitio (Texas-Spanish) = 1 league
1 Township = 6 miles long, by 6 miles wide
1 Township = 36 sections
1 Township = 36 square miles
Vara Measurements differ by locality:
1 Vara (Texas-Spanish) = 33 1/3 inches
1 Vara (Southern Colorado) 32.993 inches
1 Vara (Florida) 33.372 inches 
1 Yard = 36 inches
1 Yard = 3 feet
1 Yard Square = 9 square feet
      The following is from an 1807 deed in Armstrong Co, PA:     Beginning at a post thence by land of William Henry South one-degree east, one hundred and eighty two perches and four tenths of a perch to a post.  Thence by lands of Joseph Boney West two hundred and seventy perches to a White oak, thence by same and vacant land North one hundred and four perches and four tenths of a perch to a White oak thence by vacant land East one hundred perches to a post & north seventy eight perches to a post and East one hundred and sixty six perches to the Beginning containing two hundred and forty acres and twelve perches
      It seems that perches is used as distance and area.  So, am I to assume that, if a perch is 16 1/2' on a side, when used as distance, a perch is a length of 16 1/2 feet?  Consequently then, would four tenths of a perch, be 6.6 feet?   Kay


    So far, in Pennsylvania land descriptions (deeds/estates), I've seen perches used mainly in connection with direction (e.g. North sixty seven degrees East seventy four perches to a stone thence by the same North seventeen Degrees East seventy two perches to a White Oak thence by the same East seventy perches to a Black Oak) and with acres (e.g. Tract piece or parcel of Land containing one hundred and eighty acres and the allowance of six perches for Roads).  I don't recall running across one with rods, or other measurements.    Barbara

Allen County, Indiana Index to Birth Records A-Z 1887-1920 

This book contains child's name, father's given name, mother's maiden name, child's sex, color, date of birth, book and page number 

Blooch (???) John Annie Cry Male White born, May 11 1900 book H-6 page 124
Lee Henry Louisa Cry Male White born, June 5 1900 book H-6 page 134

SCOTT Co., MS Birth Information.    Residents of this County in 1917-18

Crye, James Benjamin born 22 Oct 1876  W Scott, MS

Continued from the last issue  [Issue 1   Vol 9]


     In previous issues of this publication I began a discussion of the children of John and Catherine Shimmin Crye.  I have been trying to complete sharing information on this family so this article is continued from the previous issue.  In John’s  will he lists his children as William, David, John, James, Isabella, Sarah, Catherine, and Margaret.   An additional son Hugh has been identified to me by LDS researchers but was not mentioned in the will.


William Crye born ca 1755 m/Sarah Higgins/Hagan

Children are:
Catron born 08/27/1780 NC   Mary born 01/20/1794 GA/TN
William Jr born 05/19/1782 SC   John born 06/18/1796 GA/TN
Hugh born 11/05/1784 GA/TN Isabel born 08/10/1798 GA/TN
Mary born  12/08/1786 GA/TN James born 01/07/1801 GA/TN
Joseph born 03/05/1789 GA/TN David born 02/05/1803 GA/TN
Sarah born  09/12/1791 GA/TN Jonathan born   09/07/1806 GA/TN

Jonathan (John, William) Crye is first mentioned in William Crye’s Rev. War Pension declaration.  (See Issue 1 Vol 1)  Jonathan’s birth was given as September 7, 1806 in North Carolina.  Jonathan married Edith L. Ayers/Pierce and their eighth child was Timothy who married Samantha Lawson.

Timothy (John, William, Jonathan) Crye and Samantha Lawson’s second child was Daisy W. Crye.  The only record found of this child was listed in the Lawson family Bible:  daughter of T.H. and Samantha Lawson Crye, born 2/20/1886, died 9/27/1890.  It is assumed she is buried with other family members in the Bethel Cemt in Bradley Co., TN.

Timothy (John, William, Jonathan) Crye and Samantha Lawson’s third child was Luther B., born in 1888.  The 1910 census for Hill Co., TX lists Luther Crye, born in TN, with wife Maggie and they have been married about six months.  In the 1920 census they are in Robertson Co., TX with three children listed, Mary, b 1915, Jack Wayne b 1916, and Nannie D. b 1919.  The 1920 census list a mother-in-law in the home named Betty Davis, concluding that Maggie’s last name was Maggie Davis.  In the 1930 census Luther and wife Maggie are in Freestone Co., TX and the head of the household is Maggie’s mother, Betty Davis.

Timothy (John, William, Jonathan) Crye and Samantha Lawson’s fourth child is Bascomb P. born in Tennessee in 1891.  In 1910, he is located in Garvin Co., OK, age 18, living in the household of Stonewall Branson and working as a hired hand.  On December 23, 1915 Bascomb married Nellie Fagan in Garvin Co., OK.  I haven’t been able to locate them in the 1920 census, however Internet research in the Texas files for births lead me to Robertson Co., which list an infant born May 3, 1919 to B.P. Crye.  This is apparently Clois, Bascombe and Nellie’s second child.

In 1930 Nellie and Bascomb are living in Hardeman Co., TX with a son Buster 13 born in OK, Clois D., 10 born in TX and Merle L. 8 born in TX.  There is also a stepdaughter listed as Verdia M. Fagan age 17.  Living in this same household is Robert H. Brantley and Susie E., father and mother-in-law.

It seems like most information for me is a ‘day late and a dollar short’ to quote an old saying because when I began looking at information on Verdie I learned that she died in August of 2004.  Even though Verdie was not a direct Crye/Cry descendant, she did live with this family and her mother was married to Bascomb, therefore I am sure she would have known some information she could have shared.  I am sure I could have learned when and where Bascomb and Nellie died, along with the travels and such of this family if I had only been a little more ahead in my research.

Verdie’s obituary reads as follows:
Verda Dunlap, 92, of Amarillo died Tuesday August 17, 2004.
      Graveside services will be at 10 a.m. Saturday in Memorial park Cemetery.  Arrangements are by Blackburn-Shaw Funeral Directors Martin Road Chapel, 1505 Martin Road.
      Mrs. Dunlap was born in Pauls Valley, OK, moving to Quanah at an early age.  She moved to Amarillo in 1947 from Childress.  She married Clinton W. Dunlap on December 30, 1930.  Mrs. Dunlap was a homemaker and a member of United Church of God.
      She was preceded in death by her husband in 1975; a son, Danny Dunlap in 2003; and a grandson, Steve Norfleet in 1990.
      Survivors include a daughter, Wanda Potter of Amarillo; four sons, Charles Dunlap of Dripping Springs, Dwight Dunlap of Amarillo, Michael Dunlap of Klamath Falls, Ore., and Richard Dunlap of Eugene, Ore.; a brother Clois Crye of Phoenix; 10 grandchildren; 11 great-grandchildren; and a great great grandchild.

Now, I was thrilled to find this mention of the brother Clois, and upon trying to locate him, I find he died in March of 2005.  Therefore, I am once again ‘a day late and a dollar short’.  I have written to several Potters in Amarillo in hopes of learning more about this family, but have had not response as of this date..

Because the marriage listed for Bascomb is to a Nellie Fagan, the stepdaughter being Verdia Fagan and the father’s name is Brantley, is it safe to assume that her maiden name was Nellie Brantley and this is a second marriage for her?  According to Social Security death records and California death records on the Internet Nellie was born in Arkansas.  The 1900 Bradley Co., AR census list Robert and Susan,  and five children, including Nellie in the household.  Nellie died in 1963 in Yuba California.  .

Timothy (John, William, Jonathan) Crye and Samantha Lawson’s fifth child is Richard born in Tennessee in 1896.  The 1910 census of Garvin Co., OK lists Richard living with Benjamin Lody, age 14, born in TN and working as a servant.  In July of 1919 a Richard Crye married Pearl Tash in Garvin Co. OK and the 1920 census of the same county list Richard, born in OK and Pearl together.

Internet searches returnd nothing more for Richard.  I did locate a marriage for a Pearl Cry age 22 to George Jarrell November 6, 1926 in the Garvin Co., OK marriages.  In the 1930 census for Oklahoma, George Jarrell is in an Oklahoma prison, listed as an inmate.

In the 1930 census of Garvin Co., OK we find Samantha Cry, age 66 a widow living with Pearl Tash-Jerrall age 22 divorced and Pearl’s son, Leuis L. Cry is age 8 living with them. Speculation is that Richard died some time after Lewis was born in 1922 and when Pearl remarried in 1926.  I don’t think Pearl would have been living with her former mother-in-law if she and Richard had divorced, even though a grand son was involved.  In the 1930 census, Lewis list his father was born in TN.  Lewis died in 1981 in California.

Timothy (John, William, Jonathan) Crye and Samantha Lawson’s sixth child is Vesta Beulah born in Tennessee in 1900.  In 1910 she is located in Garvin Co., OK living with her mother who is working in another household as a housekeeper.  In September of 1916 records found in Garvin Co., OK show that Vesta married G. W. Tash.  Apparently, this marriage didn’t last long, due to divorce or death, because in the 1920 census she is found married to Charlie Thomas Smith and has a daughter Lillie Mae.  Charlie Smith and Vesta have five children of record:  Lillie Mae, Alvie Lue Allen, Lois E. Ann, Betty Joe, and Everett.

Charlie was born about 1891 (my records show) in Alabama, however in the 1920 census he lists he was born in Kansas and in the 1930 census he lists he was born in Oklahoma.  Charlie Smith’s granddaughter, Mary Smith, has been the source of most of my information on this family.  The following is a partial email I received from her in 1999.

In 1946, there was a whole caravan that left Oklahoma for Arizona.  This included ALL Vesta and Charlie’s kids and their spouses and children.  My mother’s parents were divorced by then and her mother came with them.  Uncle Cress and his wife Wilma also went to Arizona.  So they started a whole clan there.  My grandma Vesta died about 1966 and her husband about 1955.  My mom died in 1972 at the age of 44 of cancer.  My dad died in 1986 of heat stroke.  After my mothers’ death it seemed like everyone started dying, all my aunts and uncles in AZ except Everett are gone.  So I guess my point is that I had no one to ask about other relatives.

Timothy (John, William, Jonathan) Crye and Samantha Lawson’s seventh child is Cressville born in Texas about 1904.  In 1910, he is located in Garvin Co, OK living with his mother in the household where she is working as a housekeeper.  In 1920 he still lives with his mother who is still in Garvin, listed as a widow and working as a housekeeper in a different household.

Records for this county reveal a marriage between Cressville Crye age 21 and Grace Collins age 19 on March 14, 1925.  Grace is born in Iowa according to the census and we find a Grace Collins living with her parents in McLain Co., OK in 1920 aged 14, which would make this the right age for our Grace to marry five years later.  Her father was William and mother Mary.

Cressville’s Social Security death records state that he was born October 28, 1904 and died March 1971 in Arizona.  The 1930 census list that he and Grace have three children: Mary L., born 1927, Dorothy L., born 1928 and Cressville born 1930.

I received an email from a relative of Cressville’s and it reads as follows:

Hi Anita, just wondering if you have found out anything further.  Did you find out if there was anything else in the Bible about Vesta or Cressville.  My great uncle Cress died in Phoenix Arizona.  He would come by the house often to visit my mom (his niece).  He was a thin man, about 5’10” or so, wore glasses.  His wife Wilma was a heavyset woman.  They had two kids, a son named Miles and a daughter named Christine.  Miles probably still lives in Pheonix.  I have some pictures of my Granny Vesta Crye on a family website.  I’ll send you a password so you can take a look.  What was Samantha Ellen’s parents name?  I would love to have a copy of your file.

Apparently Cressville married a second time to a lady named Wilma.  There have been no records found to substantiate this, but I really don’t know where to look either.  I haven’t found any evidence of Miles, Christine, Mary, Dorothy or the younger Cressville on any records on the Internet.  No Social Security records, or even mailing addresses for Cressville and Miles.  I figure the girls would have different names by 1950, and haven’t found marriages for them.  Any additional information on the family would be a true help.

to be continued in the next edition



An interesting story told to me by my mother is that when she was a child living in North Carolina, families who were going to Texas would tack a board across the door of their home with GTT on it.  They would pack what they could in a wagon, or buck board and head out, leaving behind the house and furnishings that could not be carried.  Anyone who happened upon the house would see the sign GTT and know that this family had Gone To Texas and the house was up for grabs for someone else to live in.                        Kinda neat, don’t you think?



This seems like it could be useful, so I am including it in our newsletter.
When States Began Death Registration
Alabama: 1908 
Alaska: 1913 
Arizona: 1909 
Arkansas: 1914 
California: 1905 
Colorado: 1907 
Connecticut: 1897 
Delaware: 1881 
District of Columbia: 1855 
Florida: 1899 
Georgia: 1919 
Hawaii: 1896 
Idaho: 1911 
Illinois: 1916 
Indiana: 1900 
Iowa: 1880 
Kansas: 1911 
Kentucky: 1911 
Louisiana: 1914 
Maine: 1892 
Maryland: 1898 
Massachusetts: 1841 
Michigan: 1867 
Minnesota: 1900 
Mississippi: 1912 
Missouri: 1910 
Montana: 1907 
Nebraska: 1905 
Nevada: 1911 
New Hampshire: 1905 
New Jersey: 1848 
New Mexico: 1919 
New York: 1880 
North Carolina: 1913 
North Dakota: 1908 
Ohio: 1909 
Oklahoma: 1908 
Oregon: 1903 
Pennsylvania: 1906 
Rhode Island: 1852 
South Carolina: 1915 
South Dakota: 1905 
Tennessee: 1914 
Texas: 1903 
Utah: 1905 
Vermont: 1857 
Virginia: 1912 
Washington: 1907 
West Virginia: 1917 
Wisconsin: 1907 
Wyoming: 1909 

     How good to hear from you again.  Thank You for all you do with the Crye information.
     Yes, I have talked via e-mail to Debbie Segrist and exchanged some information with her. I also am behind as cousins from other lines have been popping up and sharing and exchanging information and some times I ask whatever did I get myself into.  I do have a lot of fun and enjoy learning more about the family, I just am sad I didn't ask more questions of my grandparents.
     I do have pictures of Hugh Cry's grave and even a map of the cemetery if you would like I could send copies to you via snail mail.  Some one from the Paulding genealogy society took pictures for me and sent them to me.
     Do you know of any one who has pictures of Hugh and his wife Elizabeth?  I only have pictures of their daughter Matielda's family.  Debbie sent me a picture of Lola A.  I believe my great aunt, Lola was name after her mothers (Matielda) sister Lola.
     Recently I found some new information in the census about Matielda Cry's children and hope to find some more clues and possibly a distant living cousin, I keep trying.  From the census I see many of Matielda Cry's children went to Calif., the Los Angeles and San Bernardino area.
     I will be waiting for the Cry newsletter, take care.                                 Maxine

     I was happy to get your letter but sorry about the loss of your father.  You said you had to get a job.  If I'm not too nosey, what did you do before?
     I guess family has always been at the root of my concern.  My maternal grand parents were Norwegian's who came to Stoughton Wisconsin in the 18 hundred leaving parents and family behind.  I never remember her telling of any contact although she may have.  I, as a only child, was close to my mother and was sad to lose her but we had sixty some years together.  Today we are able to stay in touch anyplace in the world.  I regular correspond by some means with all our family.  We have four children and thirteen grand children and eight great grandchildren.  You have made much of our research possible and as a result we now see more clearly some of our forbears in that struggle.  Irene found a lost cousin in Washington.  Love Edwin 

Dear All: 
     We are sorry to inform you that Ed Morgan passed away on Feb. 28, 2004.  His funeral service was held on March 4 in La Crosse, Wis. 
     Ed made many friends during his venture on the World Wide Web, and we wanted to send our sincere thanks for your correspondence with our beloved grandfather.
     The family will keep his e-mail account open a few weeks longer for further correspondence and well-wishes.  A copy of Ed's obit may appear on the Web site of the La Crosse Tribune (
     Again thank you, and many blessings, the family of Ed Morgan